From: William McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Cc: "John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
"André Draszik" <andre.draszik@linaro.org>,
"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"Alim Akhtar" <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
"Donghoon Yu" <hoony.yu@samsung.com>,
"Hosung Kim" <hosung0.kim@samsung.com>,
kernel-team@android.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Youngmin Nam" <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>,
linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Add module support
Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 10:06:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDCrGT67ubNNUoUz@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e6b0f5f-ac60-48bb-af6c-fa58658d2639@linaro.org>
On 05/23/2025, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> On 15/05/2025 01:16, William McVicker wrote:
> > On 05/13/2025, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 05:48:41PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 9:50 AM Daniel Lezcano
> > > > <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 04:33:57PM -0700, Will McVicker wrote:
> > > > > > From: Donghoon Yu <hoony.yu@samsung.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Arm64 platforms the Exynos MCT driver can be built as a module. On
> > > > > > boot (and even after boot) the arch_timer is used as the clocksource and
> > > > > > tick timer. Once the MCT driver is loaded, it can be used as the wakeup
> > > > > > source for the arch_timer.
> > > > >
> > > > > From a previous thread where there is no answer:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/c1e8abec-680c-451d-b5df-f687291aa413@linaro.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't feel comfortable with changing the clocksource / clockevent drivers to
> > > > > a module for the reasons explained in the aforementionned thread.
> > > >
> > > > I wasn't CC'ed on that, but to address a few of your points:
> > > >
> > > > > I have some concerns about this kind of changes:
> > > > >
> > > > > * the core code may not be prepared for that, so loading / unloading
> > > > > the modules with active timers may result into some issues
> > > >
> > > > That's a fair concern, but permanent modules (which are loaded but not
> > > > unloaded) shouldn't suffer this issue. I recognize having modules be
> > > > fully unloadable is generally cleaner and preferred, but I also see
> > > > the benefit of allowing permanent modules to be one-way loaded so a
> > > > generic/distro kernel shared between lots of different platforms
> > > > doesn't need to be bloated with drivers that aren't used everywhere.
> > > > Obviously any single driver doesn't make a huge difference, but all
> > > > the small drivers together does add up.
> > >
> > > Perhaps using module_platform_driver_probe() should do the trick with
> > > some scripts updated for my git hooks to check
> > > module_platform_driver() is not used.
> >
> > Using `module_platform_driver_probe()` won't work as that still defines
> > a `module_exit()` hook. If you want to automatically handle this in code, then
> > the best approach is to follow what Saravana did in [1] for irqchip drivers.
> > Basically by using `builtin_platform_driver(drv_name##_driver)`, you will only
> > define the `module_init()` hook when the driver is compiled as a module which
> > ensures you always get a permanent module.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20200718000637.3632841-1-saravanak@google.com/
>
> Thanks for the pointer and the heads up regarding the module_exit() problem
> with module_platform_driver_probe().
>
> After digging into the timekeeping framework it appears if the owner of the
> clockevent device is set to THIS_MODULE, then the framework automatically
> grabs a reference preventing unloading the module when this one is
> registered.
>
> IMO it was not heavily tested but for me it is enough to go forward with the
> module direction regarding the drivers.
Great! Thanks for looking into that. I'll add that in the next revision and
verify we can't unload the module.
>
> One point though, the condition:
>
> +#ifdef MODULE
> [ ... ]
> +static const struct of_device_id exynos4_mct_match_table[] = {
> + { .compatible = "samsung,exynos4210-mct", .data = &mct_init_spi, },
> + { .compatible = "samsung,exynos4412-mct", .data = &mct_init_ppi, },
> + {}
> +};
> +MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(of, exynos4_mct_match_table);
> +
> +static struct platform_driver exynos4_mct_driver = {
> + .probe = exynos4_mct_probe,
> + .driver = {
> + .name = "exynos-mct",
> + .of_match_table = exynos4_mct_match_table,
> + },
> +module_platform_driver(exynos4_mct_driver);
> +#else
> TIMER_OF_DECLARE(exynos4210, "samsung,exynos4210-mct", mct_init_spi);
> TIMER_OF_DECLARE(exynos4412, "samsung,exynos4412-mct", mct_init_ppi);
> +#endif
>
> is not acceptable as is. We don't want to do the same in all the drivers.
Are you suggesting we create a new timer macro to handle if we want to use
TIMER_OF_DECLARE() or builtin_platform_driver()?
> Furthermore, we should not assume if the modules are enabled in the kernel
> that implies the driver is compiled as a module.
Ah yes, that's right. The ifdef should be checking
CONFIG_CLKSRC_EXYNOS_MCT_MODULE.
Thanks,
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-23 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <CGME20250402233425epcas2p479285add99d27dc18aabd2295bfcbdc8@epcas2p4.samsung.com>
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Add module support for Arm64 Exynos MCT driver Will McVicker
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] of/irq: Export of_irq_count for modules Will McVicker
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Don't register as a sched_clock on arm64 Will McVicker
2025-04-02 23:51 ` John Stultz
2025-04-08 19:57 ` William McVicker
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Set local timer interrupts as percpu Will McVicker
2025-05-08 10:12 ` Peter Griffin
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] arm64: dts: exynos: gs101: Add 'local-timer-stop' to cpuidle nodes Will McVicker
2025-05-08 10:11 ` Peter Griffin
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Fix uninitialized irq name warning Will McVicker
2025-05-08 10:19 ` Peter Griffin
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Add module support Will McVicker
2025-04-15 16:50 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-04-15 21:25 ` William McVicker
2025-04-16 11:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-05-08 11:44 ` Peter Griffin
2025-04-16 0:48 ` John Stultz
2025-04-16 13:46 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-04-16 19:48 ` John Stultz
2025-04-16 21:00 ` John Stultz
2025-05-13 14:52 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-05-14 23:16 ` William McVicker
2025-05-23 15:03 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-05-23 17:06 ` William McVicker [this message]
2025-05-23 18:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2025-05-23 20:39 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-04-02 23:33 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] arm64: exynos: Drop select CLKSRC_EXYNOS_MCT Will McVicker
2025-04-04 1:11 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Add module support for Arm64 Exynos MCT driver Youngmin Nam
2025-04-04 6:02 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-04 6:17 ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-08 19:57 ` William McVicker
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