From: Jorge Ramirez <jorge.ramirez@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Jorge Ramirez <jorge.ramirez@oss.qualcomm.com>,
quic_vgarodia@quicinc.com, quic_dikshita@quicinc.com,
bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org, mchehab@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org,
krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] dt-bindings: media: venus: Add qcm2290 dt schema
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:30:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFEZnrMUH7qorvnt@trex> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d381ad0-85d4-43de-a050-3b9ed03bf5d8@kernel.org>
On 17/06/25 08:56:37, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 17/06/2025 08:47, Jorge Ramirez wrote:
> > On 17/06/25 08:14:23, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 16/06/2025 18:59, Jorge Ramirez wrote:
> >>> On 16/06/25 18:23:18, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >>>> On 16/06/2025 18:18, Jorge Ramirez wrote:
> >>>>> On 16/06/25 16:41:44, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >>>>>> On 16/06/2025 14:52, Jorge Ramirez wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> + The Venus AR50_LITE IP is a video encode and decode accelerator present
> >>>>>>>>> + on Qualcomm platforms
> >>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>> +allOf:
> >>>>>>>>> + - $ref: qcom,venus-common.yaml#
> >>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>> +properties:
> >>>>>>>>> + compatible:
> >>>>>>>>> + const: qcom,qcm2290-venus
> >>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>> + power-domains:
> >>>>>>>>> + minItems: 2
> >>>>>>>>> + maxItems: 3
> >>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>> + power-domain-names:
> >>>>>>>>> + minItems: 2
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why is this flexible? Either you have two or three. Not mixed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> please check 5b380f242f360256c96e96adabeb7ce9ec784306
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This does not explain why this is optional HERE. You cannot use for a
> >>>>>> new platform an argument that some existing platform was changed in
> >>>>>> ABI-preserving way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks for quick the follow up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but bear with me please because I dont follow - why can the same logic
> >>>>> be used - it being applicable - and therefore result in a definition
> >>>>> similar to those other platforms?
> >>>>
> >>>> Because this platform either has 2 or 3, not both. Unless that's not
> >>>> true, but then please share some arguments.
> >>>
> >>> as with every other venus schema with more than 1 power domain, the
> >>> argument is the same one that I have shared with you a couple of
> >>> messages back (DVFS).
> >>>
> >>> verbatim:
> >>> Venus needs to vote for the performance state of a power domain (cx)
> >>> to be able to support DVFS. This 'cx' power domain is controlled by
> >>> rpm and is a common power domain (scalable) not specific to
> >>> venus alone. This is optional in the sense that, leaving this power
> >>> domain out does not really impact the functionality but just makes
> >>> the platform a little less power efficient.
> >>
> >> That's not definition of optional. The domain is needed for this device,
> >> the device is one way or another having its rails routed to that domain.
> >> It is not optional.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Seeing all these venus schemas follow the same pattern, it seems to me
> >>> that this is the correct way of implementing the above.
> >>
> >> No for the reason I mentioned earlier.
> >
> > So just to close this story up, were these two commits wrongly
> > reviewed and signed off then ? Please do notice they were also - just
> > like this one - new additions and not a change in an ABI preserving way
> > as you characterize them.
> >
> > e48b839b6699c2268e545360e06962bb76ff5b8d
> > 8d3a1cb32124eaeb3f2efe4889de214d3b658d8d
>
> I was waiting for this argument: there was something similar some years
> ago (but even months ago...) and it got reviewed, so I can do the same.
>
how could you not? two opposing schema views can not be right. If you
knew this, you should have raised. There is only so many hours in a day.
> You can even go further back. Take commits for DT bindings from 2013 and
> use that against our new review. So many different things were accepted
> in 2013.
>
> You can take any driver code from 2013. Huh, people actually do! People
> still send .owner=THIS_MODULE. In 2013 this was reviewed and accepted,
> so I can send it, right?
>
> And then people are not happy that they patches receive too much
> detailed review or review takes too much time or whatever other
> reason... Yeah if any review you ever give will be some day used against
> you, you would think 10 times and be 10 times more picky then necessary.
>
> This is like an ultimate, super, triple combo argument against reviewers
> and maintainers to discredit their work. I will not play such games.
huh? You are overthinking this: I have zero interest on evaluating
anyones work; however I need to make sure we do the right thing when
merging this - discussing previous interpretations in search of a
coherent story is not "discrediting" but the obvious thing to do (do not
assume malice let alone throw straw-man my way).
What you are asking me to do is not consistent with what has been done
in the past: since those commits were signed by well known maintainers
just as yourself I needed to understand the delta as well as making sure
everyone is aligned.
I understood your point, but I also understood theirs as being
accepted. hence I need someone to confirm which way to go. if that
someone is yourself, just confirm it and I'll move forward.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-17 7:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-13 14:03 [PATCH 0/5] media: venus: Add QCM2290 support with AR50_LITE core Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 1/5] dt-bindings: media: venus: Add qcm2290 dt schema Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-13 14:20 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-15 11:38 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-16 8:20 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-16 12:52 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-16 14:41 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-16 16:18 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-16 16:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-16 16:59 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-17 6:14 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-17 6:47 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-17 6:56 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-17 7:30 ` Jorge Ramirez [this message]
2025-06-17 7:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/5] arch: arm64: dts: qcom: qcm2290: Add venus video node Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-13 14:06 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-15 11:18 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-16 8:22 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-16 12:57 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-13 14:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] media: venus: vdec: ar50_lite video core support Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-13 14:18 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-15 11:38 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-16 8:13 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-16 12:56 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-13 14:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] media: venus: hfi_plat_v6_lite: Populate decode capabilities Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-13 14:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] media: venus: core: Add qcm2290 DT compatible and resource data Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-13 14:20 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] media: venus: Add QCM2290 support with AR50_LITE core Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] dt-bindings: media: venus: Add qcm2290 dt schema Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 14:23 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] media: venus: helpers: add IS_VPU() and IS_HFI() macros Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] media: venus: use IS_HFI() macro for multi-version check Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] media: venus: vdec: AR50_LITE video core support Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 19:44 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] media: venus: hfi_plat_v6_lite: Populate decode capabilities Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 19:47 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-19 20:53 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] media: venus: core: Add qcm2290 DT compatible and resource data Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] arm64: dts: qcom: qcm2290: Add venus video node Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-19 14:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] media: venus: Add QCM2290 support with AR50_LITE core Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-19 14:38 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-19 19:43 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-06-19 20:54 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-23 7:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] " Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-23 7:49 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] dt-bindings: media: venus: Add qcm2290 dt schema Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-23 7:57 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-23 7:49 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] media: venus: vdec: AR50_LITE video core support Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-23 7:49 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] media: venus: hfi_plat_v6_lite: Populate decode capabilities Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-23 7:49 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] media: venus: core: Add qcm2290 DT compatible and resource data Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-23 7:49 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] arm64: dts: qcom: qcm2290: Add venus video node Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2025-06-23 7:55 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] media: venus: Add QCM2290 support with AR50_LITE core Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-23 8:07 ` Jorge Ramirez
2025-06-23 8:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-23 10:37 ` Jorge Ramirez
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