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From: Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt1@gmail.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt@analog.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jic23@kernel.org,
	michael.hennerich@analog.com, nuno.sa@analog.com,
	eblanc@baylibre.com, dlechner@baylibre.com, andy@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Add ADAQ4216 and ADAQ4224
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:12:05 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aM3HJY0GWJmP8-do@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250919-unsure-mounted-0fc49ce72216@spud>

On 09/19, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 02:39:29PM -0300, Marcelo Schmitt wrote:
> > ADAQ4216 and ADAQ4224 are similar to AD4030 except that ADAQ devices have a
> > PGA (programmable gain amplifier) that scales the input signal prior to it
> > reaching the ADC inputs. The PGA is controlled through a couple of pins (A0
> > and A1) that set one of four possible signal gain configurations.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt@analog.com>
> > ---
> > Change log v1 -> v2
> > - Use pattern to specify devices that require gain related properties.
> > - Disallow gain related properties for devices that don't come with embedded PGA.
> > - Documented VDDH and VDD_FDA supplies for ADAQ4216 and ADAQ4224.
> > - Updated PGA gain constants.
> > 
> >  .../bindings/iio/adc/adi,ad4030.yaml          | 65 +++++++++++++++++--
> >  1 file changed, 60 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > 
...
> >  
> > +  pga-gpios:
> > +    description:
> > +      A0 and A1 pins for gain selection. For devices that have PGA configuration
> > +      input pins, pga-gpios should be defined if adi,gain-milli is absent.
> > +    minItems: 2
> > +    maxItems: 2
> > +
> > +  adi,pga-value:
> > +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> 
> How come this is "value" rather than "gain"?

Because, for this one, I drew inspiration from ad7191 bindings [1] in the hopes
of avoiding creating new properties or using discontinued/deprecated
nomenclature [2].

The thing is, we now have ADC chips coming with PGA circuitry in front of ADC
inputs. Those PGAs are usually set/configured through hardware connections
(e.g. dedicated GPIOs or pin-strapped) and have been described in dt-bindings.
Though, since these added PGAs don't follow a pattern with respect to the
provided gain, different properties began to appear. ad7380 and ad4000 use
adi,gain-milli to describe PGA gain [3, 4], ad7191 uses adi,pga-value and,
more recently, adaq7768-1 has been proposed with adi,aaf-gain-bp [5].
adaq7768-1 is arguably a slightly different case since the signal gain stems
from an anti-aliasing filter, but it nevertheless results in signal attenuation
much like some PGAs.

I personally like the -milli (or even -permille) nomenclature because 4 digits
have been more than enough to describe the gains (at least so far). Though, I
acknowledge the base points suffix (-bp) which is documented in
property-units.yaml [6]. The only thing I don't like much about -bp for
describing PGA gain is that PGA gains are often described in terms of unitless
scale factors, while bp implies the value to be described as a percent.

Anyways, whatever property name is chosen, it will probably be better settle to
something rather than arguing about property names each time a new ADC comes
with an integrated PGA.


[1] Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/adc/adi,ad7191.yaml
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iio/510f6efb-ada3-4848-ac8e-16fa5d1b5284@kernel.org/
[3] Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/adc/adi,ad7380.yaml
[4] Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/adc/adi,ad4000.yaml
[5] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iio/46842d4cf2c1149bd64188f94c60ce5e4f3b2beb.1757001160.git.Jonathan.Santos@analog.com/
[6] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/main/dtschema/schemas/property-units.yaml

> 
> > +    description: |
> > +      Should be present if PGA control inputs are pin-strapped. The values
> > +      specify the gain per mille. For example, 333 means the input signal is
> > +      scaled by a 0.333 factor (i.e. attenuated to one third of it's original
> > +      magnitude). Possible values:
> > +      Gain 333 (A1=0, A0=0)
> > +      Gain 555 (A1=0, A0=1)
> > +      Gain 2222 (A1=1, A0=0)
> > +      Gain 6666 (A1=1, A0=1)
> > +      If defined, pga-gpios must be absent.
> > +    enum: [333, 555, 2222, 6666]
> > +

Thanks,
Marcelo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-18 17:37 [PATCH v2 0/8] Add SPI offload support to AD4030 Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-18 17:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Fix _scale value for common-mode channels Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-18 19:32   ` David Lechner
2025-09-20 10:36     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-18 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Reference spi-peripheral-props Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-18 19:39   ` David Lechner
2025-09-19 17:29     ` Conor Dooley
2025-09-19 19:53       ` Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-20  9:33         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-19 17:33   ` Conor Dooley
2025-09-18 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] Documentation: iio: ad4030: Add double PWM SPI offload doc Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-18 19:50   ` David Lechner
2025-09-18 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Add PWM Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-18 19:51   ` David Lechner
2025-09-19 17:34   ` Conor Dooley
2025-09-18 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Use BIT macro to improve code readability Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-18 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Add SPI offload support Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-19  8:21   ` Nuno Sá
2025-09-20  9:42   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-20 14:43     ` David Lechner
2025-09-22 20:54   ` David Lechner
2025-09-23 15:27     ` Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-23 16:03       ` David Lechner
2025-09-24 20:23   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-18 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Add ADAQ4216 and ADAQ4224 Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-19 17:36   ` Conor Dooley
2025-09-19 21:12     ` Marcelo Schmitt [this message]
2025-09-21 22:20       ` Conor Dooley
2025-09-27 15:33         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-18 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Add support for " Marcelo Schmitt

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