From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
imx@lists.linux.dev, Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
Daniel Scally <dan.scally@ideasonboard.com>,
Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
Stefan Klug <stefan.klug@ideasonboard.com>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: imx8mp-debix-model-a: Disable EEE for 1000T
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 15:50:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aP-GzR_pVvXvCIn-@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f66d181d-7dd9-4955-bad5-478db2876e47@lunn.ch>
On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 01:50:21PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > Ack. With comment in the code, why we prefer this way, in case some one
> > > wont to spend time on making it work. Probably SmartEEE or some other
> > > word should be used.
> >
> > So we have options.
> >
> > However, we need to get to the bottom of what caused the change of
> > behaviour before we start throwing solutions at this.
>
> It also seems like the PHY is FUBAR. If the standard 802.3 EEE
> registers are being used, a management plane is using them to
> negotiate EEE with the link partner, the PHY firmware should disable
> SmartEEE and only provide 802.3 EEE.
>
> It sounds like this PHY is not 802.3 compatible.
I do not know better place to post it, so I add it here for archive.
At least, it explains a reason why EEE fails. Something like this is not
possible to handle on the MAC side. At same time it is hard to
diagnose:
In 100BASE-TX EEE mode, the link partner may drop link or loss packet
when the local MAC/PHY (device) starts to transmit the “Wake” signal
immediately following the “Sleep”/“Refresh” signal to exit Low-Power
Idle mode and return to Active mode.
Many EEE PHY link partners require a short “Quiet” (Tq) duration after
receiving the “Sleep”/“Refresh” signal. Without this short Tq wait time,
that is not specified in the IEEE 802.3az Standard, link drop or packet
loss can occur.
https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/aemDocuments/documents/OTH/ProductDocuments/Errata/80000708B.pdf
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-26 12:29 [PATCH] arm64: dts: imx8mp-debix-model-a: Disable EEE for 1000T Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 1:31 ` Fabio Estevam
2025-10-27 3:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-27 7:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 8:47 ` Emanuele Ghidoli
2025-10-27 9:00 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 9:18 ` Emanuele Ghidoli
2025-10-27 9:32 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 23:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 11:22 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 23:15 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 9:12 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-10-27 10:02 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 10:23 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-10-27 10:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 10:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 10:44 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-10-27 10:48 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 12:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-27 14:50 ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2025-11-12 12:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-12 12:41 ` Kieran Bingham
2025-11-12 12:56 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 1:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-12 21:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 9:07 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 9:33 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 9:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 9:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-27 13:33 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 15:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-27 19:52 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-27 23:46 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-28 0:57 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-28 7:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-11 23:54 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-12 12:03 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-12 22:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-13 1:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-13 10:59 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-14 22:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-18 1:50 ` Wei Fang
2025-11-22 7:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-22 9:57 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-23 5:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-23 8:52 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-23 15:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-23 17:11 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-24 0:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-24 5:44 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-11-24 8:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
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