From: Randolph Lin <randolph@andestech.com>
To: Niklas Cassel <cassel@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] PCI: dwc: Allow adjusting the number of ob/ib windows in glue driver
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 19:12:36 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPDTJKwmpxolGEyj@swlinux02> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aO4bWRqX_4rXud25@ryzen>
Hi Niklas,
On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 11:43:53AM +0200, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> [EXTERNAL MAIL]
>
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2025 at 10:35:23AM +0800, Randolph Lin wrote:
> > The number of ob/ib windows is determined through write-read loops
> > on registers in the core driver. Some glue drivers need to adjust
> > the number of ob/ib windows to meet specific requirements,such as
>
> Missing space after comma.
>
>
Thanks a lot. I will fix it in the next patch.
> > hardware limitations. This change allows the glue driver to adjust
> > the number of ob/ib windows to satisfy platform-specific constraints.
> > The glue driver may adjust the number of ob/ib windows, but the values
> > must stay within hardware limits.
>
> Could we please get a better explaination than "satisfy platform-specific
> constraints" ?
>
Due to this SoC design, only iATU regions with mapped addresses within the
32-bits address range need to be programmed. However, this SoC has a design
limitation in which the maximum region size supported by a single iATU
entry is restricted to 4 GB, as it is based on a 32-bits address region.
For most EP devices, we can only define one entry in the "ranges" property
of the devicetree that maps an address within the 32-bit range,
as shown below:
ranges = <0x02000000 0x0 0x10000000 0x0 0x10000000 0x0 0xf0000000>;
For EP devices that require 64-bits address mapping (e.g., GPUs), BAR
resources cannot be assigned.
To support such devices, an additional entry for 64-bits address mapping is
required, as shown below:
ranges = <0x02000000 0x0 0x10000000 0x0 0x10000000 0x0 0xf0000000>,
<0x43000000 0x1 0x00000000 0x1 0x00000000 0x7 0x00000000>;
In the current common implementation, all ranges entries are programmed to
the iATU. However, the size of entry for 64-bit address mapping exceeds the
maximum region size that a single iATU entry can support. As a result, an
error is reported during iATU programming, showing that the size of 64-bit
address entry exceeds the region limit.
In this SoC design, 64-bit addresses are hard-wired and can skip iATU
programming. Thus, the driver needs to recount the "ranges" entries whose
size fits within the 4GB platform limit.
There are four scenarios:
32-bits address, size < 4GB: program to iATU
64-bits address, size < 4GB: program to iATU
32-bits address, size > 4GB: assuming this condition does not exist
64-bits address, size > 4GB: skip case
We will recount how many outbound windows will be programmed to the iATU;
this is why we need to adjust the number of entries programmed to the iATU.
> Your PCIe controller is synthesized with a certain number of {in,out}bound
> windows, and I assume that dw_pcie_iatu_detect() correctly detects the number
> of {in,out}bound windows, and initializes num_ob_windows/num_ib_windows
> accordingly.
>
> So, is the problem that because of some errata, you cannot use all the
> {in,out}bound windows of the iATU?
>
Similar to the erratum, all inbound and outbound windows remain functional,
as long as each iATU entry complies with the 4 GB size constraint.
> Because it is hard to understand what kind of "hardware limit" that would
> cause your SoC to not be able to use all the available {in,out}bound windows.
>
> Because it is simply a mapping in the iATU (internal Address Translation Unit).
>
> In fact, in many cases, e.g. the NVMe EPF driver, then number of {in,out}bound
> windows is a major limiting factor of how many outstanding I/Os you can have,
> so usually, you really want to be able to use the maximum that the hardware
> supports.
>
>
> TL;DR: to modify this common code, I think your reasoning has to be more
> detailed.
>
I will include additional explanations along with the application scenarios of
this SoC, and refactor the commit message.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Niklas
Sincerely,
Randolph
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-16 11:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-03 2:35 [PATCH v6 0/5] Add support for Andes Qilai SoC PCIe controller Randolph Lin
2025-10-03 2:35 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] PCI: dwc: Allow adjusting the number of ob/ib windows in glue driver Randolph Lin
2025-10-14 9:43 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-10-16 11:12 ` Randolph Lin [this message]
2025-10-16 11:54 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-10-20 11:35 ` Randolph Lin
2025-10-03 2:35 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] dt-bindings: PCI: Add Andes QiLai PCIe support Randolph Lin
2025-10-06 18:52 ` Rob Herring
2025-10-03 2:35 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] riscv: dts: andes: Add PCIe node into the QiLai SoC Randolph Lin
2025-10-03 2:35 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] PCI: andes: Add Andes QiLai SoC PCIe host driver support Randolph Lin
2025-10-14 7:33 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-10-03 2:35 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] MAINTAINERS: Add maintainers for Andes QiLai PCIe driver Randolph Lin
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