From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
rodrigo.alencar@analog.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Michael Hennerich <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/9] lib: vsprintf: export simple_strntoull() in a safe prototype
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 12:57:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <acZitENbWQF7cmDA@ashevche-desk.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260327104440.079343c9@pumpkin>
On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 10:44:40AM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 11:17:16 +0200
> Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
...
> > TBH, I am skeptical about this approach. My main objection is max_chars
> > parameter. If we want to limit the input strictly to the given number of
> > characters, we have to copy the string and then just use kstrto*() in a normal
> > way. The whole idea of that parameter is to be able to parse the fractional
> > part of the float number as 'iiiii.fffff', where 'i' is for integer part, and
> > 'f' for the fractional. Since we have *endp, we may simply check that.
> >
> > In case if we want to parse only, say, 6 digits and input is longer there are
> > a few options (in my personal preferences, the first is the better):
> > - consider the input invalid
> > - parse it as is up to the maximum and then do ceil() or floor() on top of that
> > - copy only necessary amount of the (sub)string and parse that.
>
> Isn't there a bigger problem?
> If you want a max of 6 digits you need to correctly parse 3.1 3.159265
> 3.159256358979 3.0001 3.000159 3.00015926535 3.000100 (etc).
> That seems to always require checking the length and then multiply/divide
> by 10.
Yep.
> Then there is 'round to even' which rounds these two in opposite directions:
> 4.500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> 4.500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
These are wrong inputs and if we want to have them cut, it will be just a cut.
(Yeah, which will have different result for negative numbers.)
> I suspect you really want a completely different function for reading
> fractional parts of floating point numbers.
> It isn't as though the actual digit conversion is hard.
>
> > The problem with precision is that we need to also consider floor() or ceil()
> > and I don't think this should be burden of the library as it's individual
> > preference of each of the callers (users). At least for the starter, we will
> > see if it's only one approach is used, we may incorporate it into the library
> > code.
> >
> > The easiest way out is to just consider the input invalid if it overflows the
> > given type (s32 or s64).
> >
> > But we need to have an agreement what will be the representation of the
> > fixed-width float numbers in the kernel? Currently IIO uses
> > struct float // name is crafted for simplicity
> > {
> > int integer;
> > int fraction;
> > }
> >
> > This parser wants AFAIU to have at the end of the day something like
> >
> > struct float
> > {
> > s64 integer;
> > s64 fraction;
> > }
> >
> > but also wants to have the fraction part be limited in some cases to s32
> > or so:
> >
> > struct float
> > {
> > s64 integer;
> > s32 fraction; // precision may be lost if input is longer
> > }
>
> Are those 'fraction' counts of (say) 10^-6 (like times in seconds+usecs)
> or true binary values where the value could be treated as a u64 (or u128)
> for addition and subtraction.
It depends. IIO has scale on top of that, so the fraction part can be 10⁻³,
10⁻⁶, 10⁻⁹. I don't remember by heart if the ABI requires all digits to be
placed, I think we don't require that.
> So parse the latter you don't need to know the length
> (and it can be converted the to former by multiplying by 10^6).
>
> > Maybe we want to have kstrtof32() and kstrtof64() for these two cases?
> >
> > With that we will always consider the fraction part as 32- or 64-bit,
> > imply floor() on the fraction for the sake of simplicity and require
> > it to be NUL-terminated with possible trailing '\n'.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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2026-03-20 16:27 [PATCH v9 0/9] ADF41513/ADF41510 PLL frequency synthesizers Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 16:27 ` [PATCH v9 1/9] dt-bindings: iio: frequency: add adf41513 Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 16:27 ` [PATCH v9 2/9] lib: vsprintf: export simple_strntoull() in a safe prototype Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-03-27 8:45 ` Petr Mladek
2026-03-27 9:17 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-27 10:11 ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-03-27 10:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-27 15:17 ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-03-27 10:44 ` David Laight
2026-03-27 10:57 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2026-03-27 13:28 ` David Laight
2026-03-27 9:24 ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-03-20 16:27 ` [PATCH v9 3/9] iio: core: add fixed point parsing with 64-bit parts Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 16:27 ` [PATCH v9 4/9] iio: test: add kunit test for fixed-point parsing Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
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2026-03-20 16:27 ` [PATCH v9 8/9] docs: iio: add documentation for adf41513 driver Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
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2026-03-22 11:33 ` [PATCH v9 0/9] ADF41513/ADF41510 PLL frequency synthesizers Jonathan Cameron
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