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[199.106.103.52]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a92af1059eb24-12c4acc7d6fsm6594668c88.5.2026.04.13.07.34.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 13 Apr 2026 07:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 22:34:35 +0800 From: Shawn Guo To: Krzysztof Kozlowski Cc: Bjorn Andersson , Konrad Dybcio , Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Bartosz Golaszewski , Deepti Jaggi , linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dt-bindings: arm: cpus: Add compatible qcom,oryon-1-5 Message-ID: References: <20260413091625.607976-1-shengchao.guo@oss.qualcomm.com> <20260413091625.607976-3-shengchao.guo@oss.qualcomm.com> <1c06bd0f-24ce-4ea2-a7a1-4c61827b4763@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: devicetree@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=bcFbluPB c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=69dcff03 cx=c_pps a=SvEPeNj+VMjHSW//kvnxuw==:117 a=b9+bayejhc3NMeqCNyeLQQ==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=A5OVakUREuEA:10 a=s4-Qcg_JpJYA:10 a=VkNPw1HP01LnGYTKEx00:22 a=u7WPNUs3qKkmUXheDGA7:22 a=3WHJM1ZQz_JShphwDgj5:22 a=VwQbUJbxAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=KKAkSRfTAAAA:8 a=9op85udBEjPWsePlfHIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Kq8ClHjjuc5pcCNDwlU0:22 a=cvBusfyB2V15izCimMoJ:22 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details-Enc: AW1haW4tMjYwNDEzMDE0MyBTYWx0ZWRfXyXR4pdco6f5c P3lFOT0vPhFs9SGtyp0HISn58pgyt7cIKsTBjPXgMRoBzY98Q170+gOvJ3d0R1tiY8DwfOelIrR lO0jdi2xWB1+yafPO/uYYOErActIaAkYdQrBcx4jSTKsZ1JlUpv8+HNhvQvMC/q30TczcJ5y9jn 8DHrg/T5EAQ8BTYzXl0tOCk/fMe+TkNJQKMsg8Anu5QLcLqf6zmdN1pJwuEnPJaLmBKMgl8IYd/ kg6XqiCGVNmkqIOWnW/R2obuWN/D3gRr83HCCSHE+ydBPy9SCUAnqVzlfmTDERkTUmVZFhuFiqX c0Ich26dVoBffKiDcG940nihEO6EvBGQ7YLTbqfawL44V2oiL+SdMcfuT9rrHYVmTkvmozseaLH 4lKvzqKzV55lKxUrDuBA0JCnnmHX+leM8NFW67BkDJPHtJ/2xpYa7gIa5mzEyYt66VYmGrY17Uf 9gWPEZZhxAnn32zikZg== X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: W_v53RkQPCXisGiHjIc8_FRC0gwdbz3j X-Proofpoint-GUID: W_v53RkQPCXisGiHjIc8_FRC0gwdbz3j X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.293,Aquarius:18.0.1143,Hydra:6.1.51,FMLib:17.12.100.49 definitions=2026-04-13_03,2026-04-13_04,2025-10-01_01 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1015 impostorscore=0 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 priorityscore=1501 spamscore=0 classifier=typeunknown authscore=0 authtc= authcc= route=outbound adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.22.0-2604010000 definitions=main-2604130143 On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 03:30:28PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > On 13/04/2026 15:10, Shawn Guo wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 02:40:18PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > >>>> Please organize your patchset correctly. > >>> > >>> Are you asking for a big series that consists of all the new bindings > >>> used by Nord DTS and DTS itself? Unless this big series gets applied as > >>> one-go, there are still chances that bindings get into a kernel release > >>> without any users, e.g. subsystem maintainers pick up bindgins being > >>> reviewed, but DTS requires more iterations and thus misses the release. > >> > >> Please follow existing rules, communicated multiple times on the mailing > >> list. Qualcomm also has internal guideline clarifying this. > >> > >> Below are some upstream discussion clarifying this: > >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CADrjBPq_0nUYRABKpskRF_dhHu+4K=duPVZX==0pr+cjSL_caQ@mail.gmail.com/T/#m2d9130a1342ab201ab49670fa6c858ee3724c83c > >> https://lore.kernel.org/all/49258645-d4d8-44a5-a4fc-b403c926a5d1@kernel.org/ > >> > >> And how to do it: > >> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231121-topic-sm8650-upstream-dt-v3-0-db9d0507ffd3@linaro.org/ > > > > That's what I'm trying to do, posting bindings in prior to DTS, so that > > Hm? Nothing above claimed that. I am sorry, but which rule either > communicated publicly or privately encouraged or even allowed that? > > > when posting DTS, either bindings is already merged or we can refer to > > lore link of bindings. > > > > I still need to understand you comment "Bindings come with the user". > > Are you saying that bindings and DTS in different series should be posted > > at the same time to show bindings has an user? > > I am saying that you cannot post bindings alone where there is no user. > Why do want even such binding? I see no point in having it in the > kernel, unless you speak about very specific exception, but then please > clarify that exception and why it applies to this work. I think I'm getting what the requirement is now, but still not sure what the point of the requirement is. - Posting bindings and DTS at the same time doesn't guarantee they get into the same release. It can often happen that bindings are merged alone into a release. So it doesn't really help to avoid situation of there is bindings in-tree with no users. - From what I can see, there are always DTS patches coming after bindings changes, sooner or later. No one would be bothered to submit a bindings if the DTS using the bindings is only kept out of tree. In short, there will be Nord DTS using the binding coming, and I do not think posting them at the same time should be a requirement. Shawn