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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Peter Griffin <peter.griffin@linaro.org>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel (AMD)" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
	Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com, tudor.ambarus@linaro.org,
	andre.draszik@linaro.org, willmcvicker@google.com,
	jyescas@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Add arm-smmu-v3 support for instcfg data override feature
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2026 12:00:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anmvW1LkypAGW6Sc@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADrjBPqZFDvyLFpDy1YP9qrMNUCtZYtJhiaDd0iTnmB4ZYO8GQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 04:25:11PM +0100, Peter Griffin wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 at 11:53, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 26/07/2026 2:16 pm, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 01:39:41PM +0100, Peter Griffin wrote:
> > >> These two patches add support for a new "arm,instdata-override" DT property
> > >> that enables the override of the instruction/data attribute of incoming
> > >> traffic to Data by setting the INSTCFG override bits.
> > >>
> > >> It is intended to be specified when the smmu can't guarantee that these
> > >> attributes are provided correctly from the client device.
> > >
> > > This is going to need an in-tree user and a much more detailed
> > > description of what is being worked around before we consider this for
> > > inclusion.
> 
> Regarding an in-tree user, I haven't sent the Device Tree (DT) patch
> yet for Laguna SoC which adds the smmu nodes and this property because
> 1) I want to land the initial SoC/board DT first
> 2) I want agreement on the DT property name. Currently I used
> "arm,instdata-override" which is what downstream used. However, since
> this is intended to work around silicon errata something like
> "google,lga-instcfg-data-override" might be more appropriate?
> 
> For Laguna SoC the first in-tree user of this is the amb_smmu smmu
> instance which is used by the Synopsis dwc3 IP. The Laguna dwc3 glue
> driver is already upstream at drivers/usb/dwc3/dwc3-google.c
> 
> > >
> > > In particular, if a particular client is emitting data reads as
> > > instructions, then a better work around would be to avoid mapping its
> > > domains using IOMMU_NOEXEC. But I can't tell what's going on from the
> > > limited description provided here.
> >
> > Unless it's also emitting the privileged bit and thus falling foul of
> > the implicit Unpriv-W -> Priv-XN rule, but then we also have the means
> > to deal with devices which actually do that themselves (hello pl330...),
> > so that would seemingly only leave the case of some innocent piece of
> > AMBA-interfaced IP which doesn't expect to need special attributes, but
> > the system integrator has gone out of their way to tie the AxPROT bits
> > to some wacky value, which I would put in "erratum workaround" territory.
> >
> 
> You're correct Robin. It is an erratum workaround for the Laguna SoC
> due to some custom usage of the AxPROT bits which differs from the
> standard ARM SMMU handling for Privileged/Unprivileged and
> Instruction/Data transaction attributes. The effect is all
> transactions appear to the SMMU as "Privileged Instruction" accesses.

Ah, so this sounds like what Robin was worried about.

> The software workaround in this series enables the SMMU's INSTCFG
> override feature to ignore the incoming value and treat all SMMU
> transactions as "Data".
> 
> One small clarification: in the cover letter I incorrectly said this
> was set only for some SMMU IP instances, but that is incorrect. It is
> actually set on *all* arm-smmu-v3 IP instances in the Laguna SoC.
> 
> Does the above provide the additional detail you need Will?

So it sounds like using the instcfg override on this hardware still breaks
IOMMU_PRIV and IOMMU_NOEXEC:

  1. If you don't pass IOMMU_PRIV, you still get privileged transactions
  2. If you don't pass IOMMU_NOEXEC, you do not get execute permission

Is that correct?

Perhaps it would be better to override PRIVCFG to force unprivileged,
then reject IOMMU_PRIV and ignore IOMMU_NOEXEC?

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-10 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-24 12:39 [PATCH 0/2] Add arm-smmu-v3 support for instcfg data override feature Peter Griffin
2026-07-24 12:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: iommu: add arm,instdata-override property documentation Peter Griffin
2026-07-24 12:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Override for Inst/Data attribute Peter Griffin
2026-07-24 12:48   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-24 18:04   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-08-07 14:37     ` Peter Griffin
2026-08-07 16:43       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-08-10 14:15       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-10 14:43         ` Robin Murphy
2026-07-26 13:16 ` [PATCH 0/2] Add arm-smmu-v3 support for instcfg data override feature Will Deacon
2026-07-27 10:53   ` Robin Murphy
2026-08-07 15:25     ` Peter Griffin
2026-08-07 18:21       ` Daniel Mentz
2026-08-07 22:47       ` Rob Herring
2026-08-10 18:03         ` Robin Murphy
2026-08-10 11:00       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-08-10 17:16         ` Robin Murphy

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