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[173.79.60.52]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id af79cd13be357-93703432242sm286024285a.46.2026.08.18.05.59.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 18 Aug 2026 06:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 08:59:58 -0400 From: Gregory Price To: Pratyush Yadav Cc: Rob Herring , Jonathan Corbet , Shuah Khan , Mike Rapoport , Pasha Tatashin , Alexander Graf , Andrew Morton , David Hildenbrand , Lorenzo Stoakes , "Liam R. Howlett" , Vlastimil Babka , Suren Baghdasaryan , Michal Hocko , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , "H. Peter Anvin" , Ard Biesheuvel , Ilias Apalodimas , Saravana Kannan , Arnd Bergmann , Baoquan He , x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] kho: rename "scratch" to "bootmem" Message-ID: References: <20260811162642.3504565-1-pratyush@kernel.org> <20260817145231.GA579285-robh@kernel.org> <2vxz4igr1yq8.fsf@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: devicetree@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2vxz4igr1yq8.fsf@kernel.org> On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 12:58:55PM +0200, Pratyush Yadav wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17 2026, Rob Herring wrote: > > For patch 3, I am honestly surprised at how large it ended up being. But > I am in principle opposed to the idea that we should not do any > housekeeping because it might cause "churn". So I think if the end > result is better then churn shouldn't stop us. > Not really concerned about churn itself, just that I didn't fully see the value in moving from Scratch to NoPreserve - these things sort of read the same to me. The additional context you've provided is reasonable, thank you for helping me understand better. > > I renamed the commandline option because similar things have been done > in the past for other options too. > > See commit c5bfece2d612 ("nohz: Switch from "extended nohz" to "full > nohz" based naming") for example. It renamed "nohz_extended" to > "nohz_full" because it is "a bit opaque and vague". > Also not opposed to the rename, just worth the question since it will break existing users. I know boot args don't have ABI guarantees, but some are used more than others :]. > > That said, I am not opposed to keeping backwards compatibility if > someone _does_ complain. > I think you've made the case well enough here, I appreciate the help in understanding. ~Gregory