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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] thermal/core: Introduce user trip points
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 17:50:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b0677eff-e80c-48ba-a67b-edaaa037895f@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0ip9P7uD76i-SDxpea1Qj_8vgqhQ-jJt2h5iqYsMUaCzg@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/07/2024 17:47, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 5:13 PM Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 28/06/2024 15:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:55 AM Daniel Lezcano
>>> <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Currently the thermal framework has 4 trip point types:
>>>>
>>>> - active : basically for fans (or anything requiring energy to cool
>>>>     down)
>>>>
>>>> - passive : a performance limiter
>>>>
>>>> - hot : for a last action before reaching critical
>>>>
>>>> - critical : a without return threshold leading to a system shutdown
>>>>
>>>> A thermal zone monitors the temperature regarding these trip
>>>> points. The old way to do that is actively polling the temperature
>>>> which is very bad for embedded systems, especially mobile and it is
>>>> even worse today as we can have more than fifty thermal zones. The
>>>> modern way is to rely on the driver to send an interrupt when the trip
>>>> points are crossed, so the system can sleep while the temperature
>>>> monitoring is offloaded to a dedicated hardware.
>>>>
>>>> However, the thermal aspect is also managed from userspace to protect
>>>> the user, especially tracking down the skin temperature sensor. The
>>>> logic is more complex than what we found in the kernel because it
>>>> needs multiple sources indicating the thermal situation of the entire
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> For this reason it needs to setup trip points at different levels in
>>>> order to get informed about what is going on with some thermal zones
>>>> when running some specific application.
>>>>
>>>> For instance, the skin temperature must be limited to 43°C on a long
>>>> run but can go to 48°C for 10 minutes, or 60°C for 1 minute.
>>>>
>>>> The thermal engine must then rely on trip points to monitor those
>>>> temperatures. Unfortunately, today there is only 'active' and
>>>> 'passive' trip points which has a specific meaning for the kernel, not
>>>> the userspace. That leads to hacks in different platforms for mobile
>>>> and embedded systems where 'active' trip points are used to send
>>>> notification to the userspace. This is obviously not right because
>>>> these trip are handled by the kernel.
>>>>
>>>> This patch introduces the 'user' trip point type where its semantic is
>>>> simple: do nothing at the kernel level, just send a notification to
>>>> the user space.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>    .../devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml        | 1 +
>>>>    drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c                            | 8 ++++++++
>>>>    drivers/thermal/thermal_of.c                              | 1 +
>>>>    drivers/thermal/thermal_trace.h                           | 4 +++-
>>>>    drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c                            | 1 +
>>>>    include/uapi/linux/thermal.h                              | 1 +
>>>>    6 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml
>>>> index 68398e7e8655..cb9ea54a192e 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml
>>>> @@ -153,6 +153,7 @@ patternProperties:
>>>>                  type:
>>>>                    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>>>>                    enum:
>>>> +                  - user     # enable user notification
>>>>                      - active   # enable active cooling e.g. fans
>>>>                      - passive  # enable passive cooling e.g. throttling cpu
>>>>                      - hot      # send notification to driver
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
>>>> index 2aa04c46a425..506f880d9aa9 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
>>>> @@ -734,6 +734,14 @@ int thermal_bind_cdev_to_trip(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
>>>>           if (tz != pos1 || cdev != pos2)
>>>>                   return -EINVAL;
>>>>
>>>> +       /*
>>>> +        * It is not allowed to bind a cooling device with a trip
>>>> +        * point user type because no mitigation should happen from
>>>> +        * the kernel with these trip points
>>>> +        */
>>>> +       if (trip->type == THERMAL_TRIP_USER)
>>>> +               return -EINVAL;
>>>
>>> Maybe print a debug message when bailing out here?
>>
>> After thinking a bit about the message, it sounds to me that is a really
>> an error in the firmware if we end up binding an 'user' trip point.
>>
>> What about the following message:
>>
>> dev_err(tz->device, "Trying to bind the cooling device '%s' with an
>> 'user' trip point id=%d", cdev->type, trip->id);
> 
> s/an// I think.
> 
> Also I wouldn't use dev_err() as it indicates a kernel issue.  Maybe
> dev_info(tz->device, FW_BUG ...)?

Right, thanks

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-01 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27  8:54 [PATCH] thermal/core: Introduce user trip points Daniel Lezcano
2024-06-28 13:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-07-01 13:17   ` Daniel Lezcano
2024-07-01 13:36     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-07-01 15:13   ` Daniel Lezcano
2024-07-01 15:47     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-07-01 15:50       ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2024-07-01 16:26 ` Rob Herring
2024-07-02  9:29   ` Daniel Lezcano
2024-07-02 10:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-07-02 10:56       ` Daniel Lezcano
2024-07-02 11:03         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-07-02 11:17           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-07-02 16:31           ` Daniel Lezcano
2024-07-02 17:15             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-07-02 22:49               ` Daniel Lezcano
2024-07-03 11:20                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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