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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Jingyi Wang <jingyi.wang@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Robert Marko <robimarko@gmail.com>,
	Das Srinagesh <quic_gurus@quicinc.com>,
	aiqun.yu@oss.qualcomm.com, tingwei.zhang@oss.qualcomm.com,
	trilok.soni@oss.qualcomm.com, yijie.yang@oss.qualcomm.com,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add qcom,kaanapali-imem compatible
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2025 15:26:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6717831-1840-4b9a-aade-ab2248e3f75d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <790ca394-cee2-412b-97d8-c6416b843010@oss.qualcomm.com>

On 04/11/2025 13:32, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 11/4/25 9:16 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 02, 2025 at 11:25:06PM -0800, Jingyi Wang wrote:
>>> Document qcom,kaanapali-imem compatible. Kaanapali IMEM is not a syscon or
>>> simple-mfd, also "reboot reason" is not required on Kaanapali like some
>>
>> I do not see correlation. Something is not a syscon, so you add a new
>> generic compatible? No.
>>
>>> other platforms. So define a common "qcom,imem" binding and fallback to it.
>>
>> You did not define fallback to it!
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> +      - items:
>>> +          - enum:
>>> +              - qcom,kaanapali-imem
>>> +          - const: qcom,imem
>>
>> I do not understand what this generic compatible is supposed to express,
>> not explained in commit msg. Considering this wasn't before, it is a
>> major and really undesired change. It also makes no sesne. There was no
>> generic compatible before but "if not syscon" now this must have generic
>> compatible, what?
> 
> So IMEM (or SYSTEM_IMEM more specifically as opposed to BOOT_IMEM which
> you can take your guesses what it's used for) is to the best of our
> understanding just a piece of SRAM that's accessible by multiple
> processors/subsystems on the SoC.
> 
> A smaller region within it ("shared IMEM") is a little bit of a dumping
> ground for various (incl. runtime) configuration and debug magic data
> and that's usually what Linux is concerned with.
> 
> IMEM is currently described as a simple-mfd+syscon, which it is clearly
> not. The former, as we've established in the past, was used as a hack to
> have something call of_platform_populate().
> 
> I think that in turn is only necessary for the old arm32 DTs which have
> a syscon-reboot-mode node under IMEM (and I think that's where the syscon
> compatible comes from).
> 
> Should we make the switch to mmio-sram and settle this discussion?
> It would probably require convincing the sram maintainer to add that
> of_platform_populate() call in its probe func and making syscon-reboot
> not depend on a syscon (not like it's very hard)

This I got, but nothing here explains why you need generic compatible.
To re-iterate: there was no generic compatible before, now there is.
Writing bindings and numerous reviews from DT maintainers ask not to use
generic compatibles.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-04 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-03  7:25 [PATCH v3 0/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add soc related bindings for Kaanapali Jingyi Wang
2025-11-03  7:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add qcom,kaanapali-imem compatible Jingyi Wang
2025-11-04  3:17   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-04  8:16   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 10:41     ` Aiqun(Maria) Yu
2025-11-04 12:32     ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 14:26       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-11-04 14:35         ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 14:37           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 14:38             ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 14:52               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 14:58                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 15:02                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 15:14                     ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-06 20:24                   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-11  8:29                     ` Kathiravan Thirumoorthy
2025-11-11 12:08                       ` Aiqun(Maria) Yu
2025-11-11 16:38                         ` Kathiravan Thirumoorthy
2025-11-03  7:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] dt-bindings: firmware: qcom,scm: Document SCM on Kaanapali SOC Jingyi Wang
2025-11-04  3:53 ` (subset) [PATCH v3 0/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add soc related bindings for Kaanapali Bjorn Andersson

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