From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Jingyi Wang <jingyi.wang@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
Robert Marko <robimarko@gmail.com>,
Das Srinagesh <quic_gurus@quicinc.com>,
aiqun.yu@oss.qualcomm.com, tingwei.zhang@oss.qualcomm.com,
trilok.soni@oss.qualcomm.com, yijie.yang@oss.qualcomm.com,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add qcom,kaanapali-imem compatible
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2025 15:26:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6717831-1840-4b9a-aade-ab2248e3f75d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <790ca394-cee2-412b-97d8-c6416b843010@oss.qualcomm.com>
On 04/11/2025 13:32, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 11/4/25 9:16 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 02, 2025 at 11:25:06PM -0800, Jingyi Wang wrote:
>>> Document qcom,kaanapali-imem compatible. Kaanapali IMEM is not a syscon or
>>> simple-mfd, also "reboot reason" is not required on Kaanapali like some
>>
>> I do not see correlation. Something is not a syscon, so you add a new
>> generic compatible? No.
>>
>>> other platforms. So define a common "qcom,imem" binding and fallback to it.
>>
>> You did not define fallback to it!
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> + - items:
>>> + - enum:
>>> + - qcom,kaanapali-imem
>>> + - const: qcom,imem
>>
>> I do not understand what this generic compatible is supposed to express,
>> not explained in commit msg. Considering this wasn't before, it is a
>> major and really undesired change. It also makes no sesne. There was no
>> generic compatible before but "if not syscon" now this must have generic
>> compatible, what?
>
> So IMEM (or SYSTEM_IMEM more specifically as opposed to BOOT_IMEM which
> you can take your guesses what it's used for) is to the best of our
> understanding just a piece of SRAM that's accessible by multiple
> processors/subsystems on the SoC.
>
> A smaller region within it ("shared IMEM") is a little bit of a dumping
> ground for various (incl. runtime) configuration and debug magic data
> and that's usually what Linux is concerned with.
>
> IMEM is currently described as a simple-mfd+syscon, which it is clearly
> not. The former, as we've established in the past, was used as a hack to
> have something call of_platform_populate().
>
> I think that in turn is only necessary for the old arm32 DTs which have
> a syscon-reboot-mode node under IMEM (and I think that's where the syscon
> compatible comes from).
>
> Should we make the switch to mmio-sram and settle this discussion?
> It would probably require convincing the sram maintainer to add that
> of_platform_populate() call in its probe func and making syscon-reboot
> not depend on a syscon (not like it's very hard)
This I got, but nothing here explains why you need generic compatible.
To re-iterate: there was no generic compatible before, now there is.
Writing bindings and numerous reviews from DT maintainers ask not to use
generic compatibles.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-04 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-03 7:25 [PATCH v3 0/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add soc related bindings for Kaanapali Jingyi Wang
2025-11-03 7:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add qcom,kaanapali-imem compatible Jingyi Wang
2025-11-04 3:17 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-04 8:16 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 10:41 ` Aiqun(Maria) Yu
2025-11-04 12:32 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 14:26 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-11-04 14:35 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 14:37 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 14:38 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 14:52 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 14:58 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-04 15:02 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-04 15:14 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-06 20:24 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-11 8:29 ` Kathiravan Thirumoorthy
2025-11-11 12:08 ` Aiqun(Maria) Yu
2025-11-11 16:38 ` Kathiravan Thirumoorthy
2025-11-03 7:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] dt-bindings: firmware: qcom,scm: Document SCM on Kaanapali SOC Jingyi Wang
2025-11-04 3:53 ` (subset) [PATCH v3 0/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: Add soc related bindings for Kaanapali Bjorn Andersson
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