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From: "Rafał Miłecki" <rafal@milecki.pl>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	"Scott Branden" <sbranden@broadcom.com>,
	"Jon Mason" <jonmason@broadcom.com>,
	"Ray Jui" <rjui@broadcom.com>, "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@ti.com>,
	"Yendapally Reddy Dhananjaya Reddy"
	<yendapally.reddy@broadcom.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.11 1/2] Revert "phy: Add USB3 PHY support for Broadcom NSP SoC"
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 08:21:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b715c193196fb2de2b95cc3d15102e1b@milecki.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06b6461c-9f43-3482-352f-374490056e90@gmail.com>

On 2017-02-09 00:44, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 02/08/2017 03:39 PM, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
>> On 2017-02-09 00:32, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>> On 02/08/2017 03:30 PM, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
>>>> From: Rafał Miłecki <rafal@milecki.pl>
>>>> 
>>>> This reverts commit d7bc1a7d41bf ("phy: Add USB3 PHY support for
>>>> Broadcom NSP SoC") as we already have driver for this PHY (shared by 
>>>> NS
>>>> and NSP). It was added in commit e5666281d9ea ("phy: bcm-ns-usb3: 
>>>> new
>>>> driver for USB 3.0 PHY on Northstar").
>>>> 
>>>> Instead of adding separated driver & duplicating code we should work 
>>>> on
>>>> improving existing (old) one. Thanks to work done by Broadcom we 
>>>> know
>>>> there is MDIO bus we weren't aware of & we know register names which
>>>> makes initialization more clear. This is very valuable info and we
>>>> should work on using it in existing driver afterwards.
>>> 
>>> Should not we first extend the old driver to support NSP and then 
>>> revert
>>> d7bc1a7d41bf ("phy: Add USB3 PHY support for Broadcom NSP SoC")?
>> 
>> Sounds like a weird / dirty development method to me: adding 
>> duplicated
>> code
>> first then working on cleaning it. Unless you mean drivers/staging/.
> 
> There was clearly a mistake in submitting this NSP USB PHY driver, and
> it should have been a patch against the existing NS USB PHY driver, but
> it was not, okay fair enough.
> 
> It's one thing to address that in the future, and it's another thing to
> flat out revert the driver just because you don't like the duplication.
> 
> I don't like that either, and we can discuss on how to improve things
> (like have the maintainer review that too), but duplication is a lesser
> evil than not having the hardware supported at all, and even more so,
> purposely reverting in the name of removing that duplication, that's
> intentionally breaking working hardware!

Hardware support is not excuse and I don't think it ever was in the 
Linux.

We don't accept badly designed drivers just because they provide new hw 
support.
We have various standards (for quality, style, design, code) at kernel 
and we
stick to them unless it's drivers/staging/. As you said this driver 
shouldn't be
pushed in the first place.

Dropping hardware support in kernel happens. Sometimes it's about 
ancient
devices, sometimes about code quality (some forgotten staging drivers 
used to be
dropped AFAIK).

Additionally you're talking about support that was *just* added and 
isn't used
by anyone in the wild world yet.

This hardware was missing upstream support for 4 years so 2 extra months 
won't
really hurt anyone.

I really don't see excusee or need for keeping this driver.

If you want to (and you feel it's well designed), we can keep
brcm,nsp-usb3-phy.txt

I vote for focusing on existing driver improvements instead of looking 
for
excuses for keeping driver that shouldn't be added in the first place.
Jon seems to be already working on this, I'm willing to help him, I'm 
sure we
can get you a proper support for the next merge window.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-09  7:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-08 23:30 [PATCH for-4.11 1/2] Revert "phy: Add USB3 PHY support for Broadcom NSP SoC" Rafał Miłecki
     [not found] ` <20170208233023.31922-1-zajec5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-08 23:30   ` [PATCH for-4.11 2/2] Revert "dt-bindings: phy: Add documentation for NSP USB3 PHY" Rafał Miłecki
2017-02-10  0:27     ` Jon Mason
     [not found]     ` <20170208233023.31922-2-zajec5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-10  0:30       ` Jon Mason
2017-02-15 23:04       ` Rob Herring
2017-02-08 23:32 ` [PATCH for-4.11 1/2] Revert "phy: Add USB3 PHY support for Broadcom NSP SoC" Florian Fainelli
     [not found]   ` <82b47a03-c41b-378b-2d7c-f263eff514a9-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-08 23:36     ` Jon Mason
2017-02-08 23:39   ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-02-08 23:44     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-02-09  7:21       ` Rafał Miłecki [this message]
2017-02-09 19:18         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-02-10  0:27           ` Jon Mason
     [not found]             ` <CAC3K-4o+ARP=_hg2XQszQh6v+ySpubyKRspCF38SLUUx4mXQDA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-08 12:13               ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-03-08 12:26                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                   ` <58BFF88F.8080008-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-09  8:11                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2017-03-09  9:17                       ` Rafał Miłecki
     [not found]           ` <b2bdc1a7-4e5c-a13e-0cda-c90759d7308c-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-10  0:29             ` Jon Mason

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