From: Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org, quentin.schulz@cherry.de,
Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
"kernel@pengutronix.de" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SoC-specific device tree aliases?
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 11:16:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcb359cf-0e8a-46ec-9f69-51c4c9e8874e@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07ee3540-d0c1-436e-9e1d-db1952f609a6@kernel.org>
Hello Krzysztof,
On 11/17/25 5:29 PM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 17/11/2025 17:06, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> So you want it to be an ABI for barebox, sure, just make it a binding.
>>
>> What do you have in mind? Other than standard names for the aliases,
>> what can we check here? That a specific alias points to a specific
>> path? That would be a bit too much IMO. That would be equivalent to
>> specifying possible values in 'reg' for all devices.
>
> Binding with pattern or list of needed alias names, referenced by given
> soc-platform top-level schema.
>
> One of the points is to make it explicit and obvious (e.g. to Arnd or to
> me if I forget, because I follow the same logic of aliases per board)
> that these aliases are used outside of kernel.
>
> Just because ufs/mmc/spi can be used that way, does not mean we should
> accept any possible alias into soc.dtsi.
I can't see how this could work. A number of boards renumber MMC devices
in a different manner than the SoC reference manual:
- Changing the alias numbering is an ABI break, because Linux derives
its /dev/mmcblkX numbering from it
- Leaving them as-is means they are not usable for boot source determination
That's why I am suggesting a separate node that reflects only the SoC
reference manual's numbering. I don't see how a schema for the existing
/aliases would remove the need for this.
Thanks,
Ahmad
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-03 10:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-13 8:28 SoC-specific device tree aliases? Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-13 18:04 ` Rob Herring
2025-11-13 19:17 ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-13 20:24 ` Heiko Stübner
2025-11-14 9:13 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-17 7:38 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-17 8:26 ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-17 9:52 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-17 10:34 ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-17 10:41 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-17 12:56 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2025-11-17 13:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-17 14:52 ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-17 14:57 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-17 15:23 ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-17 15:44 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-17 16:06 ` Rob Herring
2025-11-17 16:29 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-03 10:16 ` Ahmad Fatoum [this message]
2025-12-03 10:25 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-03 10:36 ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-12-03 11:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-03 11:37 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-12-03 17:51 ` Rob Herring
2025-12-04 7:59 ` Sascha Hauer
2025-12-04 13:44 ` Rob Herring
2025-12-03 11:20 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2025-12-03 11:24 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-03 11:34 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-12-04 18:51 ` Tom Rini
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