From: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: sven@svenpeter.dev, robin.murphy@arm.com, robh@kernel.org,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, joro@8bytes.org,
will@kernel.org, marcan@marcan.st, maz@kernel.org,
mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com, stan@corellium.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Apple M1 DART IOMMU driver
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 22:16:14 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1bcda7f8ba573bd@bloch.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a1+BOmT39k=OqFU+LtgfW=SDCp5W69YW58sVGf66mSppw@mail.gmail.com> (message from Arnd Bergmann on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:59:58 +0100)
> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:59:58 +0100
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:51 PM Sven Peter <sven@svenpeter.dev> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, at 18:34, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > > On 2021-03-26 17:26, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, from my viewpoint having the information about the IOVA
> > > > address space sit on the devices makes little sense. This information
> > > > is needed by the DART driver, and there is no direct cnnection from
> > > > the DART to the individual devices in the devicetree. The "iommus"
> > > > property makes a connection in the opposite direction.
> > >
> > > What still seems unclear is whether these addressing limitations are a
> > > property of the DART input interface, the device output interface, or
> > > the interconnect between them. Although the observable end result
> > > appears more or less the same either way, they are conceptually
> > > different things which we have different abstractions to deal with.
> >
> > I'm not really sure if there is any way for us to figure out where these
> > limitation comes from though.
>
> My first guess was that this is done to partition the available address
> address space in a way that allows one physical IOTLB to handle
> multiple devices that each have their own page table for a subset
> of the address space, as was done on old PowerPC IOMMUs.
> However, the ranges you list don't really support that model.
>
> > I've done some more experiments and looked at all DART nodes in Apple's Device
> > Tree though. It seems that most (if not all) masters only connect 32 address
> > lines even though the iommu can handle a much larger address space. I'll therefore
> > remove the code to handle the full space for v2 since it's essentially dead
> > code that can't be tested anyway.
> >
> >
> > There are some exceptions though:
> >
> > There are the PCIe DARTs which have a different limitation which could be
> > encoded as 'dma-ranges' in the pci bus node:
> >
> > name base size
> > dart-apcie1: 00100000 3fe00000
> > dart-apcie2: 00100000 3fe00000
> > dart-apcie0: 00100000 3fe00000
> > dart-apciec0: 00004000 7fffc000
> > dart-apciec1: 80000000 7fffc000
>
> This looks like they are reserving some address space in the beginning
> and/or the end, and for apciec0, the address space is partitioned into
> two equal-sized regions.
>
> > Then there are also these display controller DARTs. If we wanted to use dma-ranges
> > we could just put them in a single sub bus:
> >
> > name base size
> > dart-disp0: 00000000 fc000000
> > dart-dcp: 00000000 fc000000
> > dart-dispext0: 00000000 fc000000
> > dart-dcpext: 00000000 fc000000
> >
> >
> > And finally we have these strange ones which might eventually each require
> > another awkward sub-bus if we want to stick to the dma-ranges property.
> >
> > name base size
> > dart-aop: 00030000 ffffffff ("always-on processor")
> > dart-pmp: 00000000 bff00000 (no idea yet)
>
> Here I also see a "pio-vm-size" property:
>
> dart-pmp {
> pio-vm-base = <0xc0000000>;
> pio-vm-size = <0x40000000>;
> vm-size = <0xbff00000>;
> ...
> };
>
> Which seems to give 3GB of address space to the normal iotlb,
> plus the last 1GB to something else. The vm-base property is also
> missing rather than zero, but that could just be part of their syntax
> instead of a real difference.
Yes. It seems like "vm-base" is omitted when it is 0, and "vm-size"
is omitted when the end of the window is at 0xffffffff.
>
> Could it be that there are
>
> > dart-sio: 0021c000 fbde4000 (at least their Secure Enclave/TPM co-processor)
>
> Same here:
> dart-sio {
> vm-base = <0x0>;
> vm-size = <0xfc000000>;
> pio-vm-base = <0xfd000000>;
> pio-vm-size = <0x2000000>;
> pio-granularity = <0x1000000>;
> }
>
> There are clearly two distinct ranges that split up the 4GB space again,
> with a small hole of 16MB (==pio-granularity) at the end of each range.
>
> The "pio" name might indicate that this is a range of addresses that
> can be programmed to point at I/O registers in another device, rather
> than pointing to RAM.
>
> Arnd
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-26 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-20 15:19 [PATCH 0/3] Apple M1 DART IOMMU driver Sven Peter
2021-03-20 15:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] iommu: io-pgtable: add DART pagetable format Sven Peter
2021-03-24 16:37 ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-25 20:47 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-20 15:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: iommu: add DART iommu bindings Sven Peter
2021-03-22 0:15 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-22 18:16 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-21 16:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] Apple M1 DART IOMMU driver Mark Kettenis
2021-03-21 17:28 ` Sven Peter
[not found] ` <8360b3b3-296c-450d-abc3-bb47159bf4e1@www.fastmail.com>
2021-03-21 18:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-22 22:17 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-23 20:00 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-23 21:03 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-23 20:53 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-23 22:33 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-25 7:53 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-25 11:50 ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-25 20:49 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-27 15:33 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-25 21:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-26 15:59 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-26 16:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-26 16:10 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-26 16:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-26 17:06 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-26 17:26 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-26 17:34 ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-26 17:51 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-26 19:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-26 21:16 ` Mark Kettenis [this message]
2021-03-27 15:30 ` Sven Peter
2021-03-26 20:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-26 21:13 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-24 15:29 ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-25 7:58 ` Sven Peter
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