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From: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
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	Brendan Higgins <brendan.higgins@linux.dev>,
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	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J.Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
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	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, kunit-dev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] clk: Add kunit tests for fixed rate and parent data
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 09:39:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c81211fa-2836-fe21-637f-a5cca7237d43@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ecb5ede44d5bcc0430dad99e53d4477d.sboyd@kernel.org>

On 3/2/23 17:57, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> Quoting Rob Herring (2023-03-02 12:18:34)
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 1:44 PM Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Quoting Rob Herring (2023-03-02 09:13:59)
>>>>
>>>> Good to see bindings for this. I've been meaning to do something about
>>>> the DT unittest ones being undocumented, but I hadn't really decided
>>>> whether it was worth writing schemas for them. The compatibles at
>>>> least show up with 'make dt_compatible_check'. Perhaps we want to just
>>>> define some vendor (not 'linux') that's an exception rather than
>>>> requiring schemas (actually, that already works for 'foo').
>>>
>>> Sure. Maybe "kunit" should be the vendor prefix? Or "dtbunit"?
>>
>> We'd want to use the same thing on the DT unittests or anything else
>> potentially. How about just 'test'?
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
>>
>>>> It's
>>>> likely that we want test DTs that fail normal checks and schemas get
>>>> in the way of that as we don't have a way to turn off checks.
>>>
>>> Having the schemas is nice to make sure tests that are expecting some
>>> binding are actually getting that. But supporting broken bindings is
>>> also important to test any error paths in functions that parse
>>> properties. Maybe we keep the schema and have it enforce that incorrect
>>> properties are being set?
>>
>> I wasn't suggesting throwing them out. More why I hadn't written any I guess.
>>
>>> Do we really need to test incorrect bindings? Doesn't the
>>> dt_bindings_check catch these problems so we don't have to write DTB
>>> verifiers in the kernel?
>>
>> Fair enough. Using my frequently stated position against me. :)
>>
>> I do have a secret plan to implement (debug) type checks into the
>> of_property_* APIs by extracting the type information from schemas
>> into C.
>>
> 
> Ok. I suspect we may want to test error paths though so I don't know

Yes, exactly.

> what to do here. For now I'll just leave the bindings in place and
> change the prefix to "test".
> 
>>
>>>> We already have GPIO tests in the DT unittests, so why is clocks
>>>> different? Or should the GPIO tests be moved out (yes, please!)?
>>>
>>> Ah I didn't notice the GPIO tests in there. There are i2c tests too,
>>> right? All I can say is clks are using kunit, that's the difference ;-)
>>
>> Yeah, they should perhaps all move to the subsystems.
> 
> Got it.
> 
>>
>>>> What happens when/if the DT unittest is converted to kunit? I think
>>>> that would look confusing from the naming. My initial thought is
>>>> 'kunit' should be dropped from the naming of a lot of this. Note that
>>>> the original kunit submission converted the DT unittests. I would
>>>> still like to see that happen. Frank disagreed over what's a unit test
>>>> or not, then agreed, then didn't... I don't really care. If there's a
>>>> framework to use, then we should use it IMO.
>>>
>>> Honestly I don't want to get involved in migrating the existing DT
>>> unittest code to kunit. I'm aware that it was attempted years ago when
>>> kunit was introduced. Maybe if the overlay route works well enough I can
>>> completely sidestep introducing any code in drivers/of/ besides some
>>> kunit wrappers for this. I'll cross my fingers!
>>
>> Yeah, I wasn't expecting you to. I just want to make sure this meshes
>> with any future conversion to kunit.
> 
> Phew!
> 
>>
>> There's also some plans to always populate the DT root node if not
>> present. That may help here. Or not. There's been a few versions
>> posted with Frank's in the last week or 2.
>>
> 
> Ok. I think I have some time to try this overlay approach so let me see
> what is needed.

Please avoid overlays.  See my other replies in this thread for why.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-04 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-02  1:38 [PATCH 0/8] clk: Add kunit tests for fixed rate and parent data Stephen Boyd
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 1/8] dt-bindings: Add linux,kunit binding Stephen Boyd
2023-03-03  7:14   ` David Gow
2023-03-03  7:49     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]     ` <377046f369227a11fbf9e67c3c122d79.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-10  7:55       ` David Gow
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 2/8] of: Enable DTB loading on UML for KUnit tests Stephen Boyd
2023-03-03  7:15   ` David Gow
     [not found]     ` <a97c9bb3a5addfb34af8ccabaa513026.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-10  8:09       ` David Gow
     [not found]         ` <d64a086ddcb7c5ca5abecab0ca654259.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-11  6:42           ` David Gow
2023-03-13 16:02             ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-14  4:28               ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-15  7:04                 ` David Gow
2023-03-15 21:35                   ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-16  0:45                     ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-16  4:15                       ` David Gow
2023-03-08 19:46   ` Rob Herring
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] kunit: Add test managed platform_device/driver APIs Stephen Boyd
2023-03-03  7:15   ` David Gow
2023-03-03 14:35     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]       ` <dea61f59ea83c772b693b18db43c3eb7.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-15  8:27         ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <b0d4d450a7ad9b39336771b74b48f086.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-10  8:19       ` David Gow
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 4/8] clk: Add test managed clk provider/consumer APIs Stephen Boyd
2023-03-03  7:15   ` David Gow
     [not found]     ` <77b315f6b89eb256c516ee08b1c17312.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-11  6:32       ` David Gow
2023-03-21 14:32         ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 5/8] dt-bindings: kunit: Add fixed rate clk consumer test Stephen Boyd
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 6/8] clk: Add KUnit tests for clk fixed rate basic type Stephen Boyd
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 7/8] dt-bindings: clk: Add KUnit clk_parent_data test Stephen Boyd
2023-03-02  1:38 ` [PATCH 8/8] clk: Add KUnit tests for clks registered with struct clk_parent_data Stephen Boyd
2023-03-02  8:13 ` [PATCH 0/8] clk: Add kunit tests for fixed rate and parent data David Gow
2023-03-02 17:32   ` Rob Herring
2023-03-04 14:48     ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]     ` <3759b28cca7ab751296d4dd83f2dcc51.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-02 19:47       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-03-05  3:32         ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-05  9:26           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-03-06  5:32             ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-04 15:04       ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-02 17:13 ` Rob Herring
     [not found]   ` <093867df6137ad9e964b7dd90fb58f1a.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-02 20:18     ` Rob Herring
2023-03-04 15:37       ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]       ` <ecb5ede44d5bcc0430dad99e53d4477d.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-04 15:39         ` Frank Rowand [this message]
2023-03-06 12:53           ` Rob Herring
2023-03-06 15:03             ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-04 15:33   ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-03 14:38 ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-04 15:50 ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-10  7:48   ` David Gow
2023-03-13 15:30     ` Frank Rowand

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