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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Paul Burton <paul.burton@imgtec.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@leemhuis.info>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 10:12:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d344247f-2aa4-d5cc-1012-4fe06f831d79@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3421375.fR4RSn7eD9@np-p-burton>

Hi,

On 07-11-16 18:16, Paul Burton wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> On Sunday, 6 November 2016 11:54:35 GMT Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> What I see in my systems, and what 05fd007e4629 ("console: don't prefer
>>> first registered if DT specifies stdout-path") addressed, is that if
>>> there are for example 2 UARTs uart0 & uart1 that are probed in that order
>>> and stdout-path indicates that we should use uart1 we wind up essentially
>>> ignoring it because>
>>> the ordering of the relevant calls goes:
>>>   - of_console_check() for uart0
>>>   - add_preferred_console() for uart0
>>>   - register_console() for uart0
>>>   - of_console_check() for uart1
>>>   - add_preferred_console() for uart1
>>>   - register_console() for uart1
>>>
>>> Since of_check_console() doesn't get called for uart1 until after uart0
>>> has
>>> been probed, we don't add an entry for it to the console_cmdline array
>>> until after register_console() has already decided to enable uart0
>>> because preferred_console == -1.
>>>
>>> I'm not the only one seeing this oddity either, for example see the
>>> discussion on this patch:
>>>
>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9263753/
>>>
>>> By simply reverting my patch you restore us to a position where so far as
>>> I
>>> can see we simply do not honor stdout-path for the real kernel console.
>>
>> As said before, we do still honor it, but in your probe example we also get
>> a (second) serial console on uart0, where as you only want one on uart1.
>
> ...but don't we only support one console per type of device? That's what
> Documentation/serial-console.txt says anyway, which means having a console on
> both uart0 & uart1 does not work. I could live with having console output on
> an extra UART, but that's not what I was seeing when I wrote this patch.

Ah yes, you're probably right about that.

>> So I see a few possible solutions here:
>>
>> 1) Do a new version of your patch which changes the  "&&
>> !of_specified_console" check to "&& (newcon == tty0 ||
>> !of_specified_console)", then we would still always register tty0 (as long
>> as it gets registered first, just like now) and we would not register uart0
>> in your above example, note the "newcon == tty0" check in my example is
>> pseudo-code. I would be happy to try out such a patch
>>
>> 2) Add a new dt property to enable the new behavior you seek
>>
>> I'm myself tending towards 1 as a better solution: treat tty0 special,
>> because some existing setups rely on it always being registered as a
>> console even if stdout-path is specified and otherwise always honor
>> stdout-path.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hans
>
> That does feel a little hack-ish to me though... I don't like the reliance on
> probe ordering, nor special casing tty0 in general.

Given that we've just got a "me too" reply from the ppc side of things,
it seems that in reality people have been relying on probe ordering here
for a long time now. IMHO tty0 is special, so it does make sense that it
always gets probed first (*) and it does make sense to handle it special.

*) Even though that seems to be more how things work (an implicit thing)
rather then explicit.

> In any case I don't think I have the time to unpick all this at the moment, so
> I suggest we go ahead with your revert for now & I'll revisit the system I was
> working on when I find the time.

Ok.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-08  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-04 12:11 [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards Hans de Goede
     [not found] ` <20161104121135.4780-1-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04 12:11   ` [PATCH] Revert "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <20161104121135.4780-2-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04 19:39       ` Andrew Morton
2016-11-08  0:46       ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]         ` <87h97ilrx0.fsf-W0DJWXSxmBNbyGPkN3NxC2scP1bn1w/D@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-08  7:00           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-10 14:14             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-06 12:13   ` [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards Thorsten Leemhuis
2016-11-04 12:30 ` Paul Burton
2016-11-04 13:22   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-05 10:40     ` Paul Burton
2016-11-06 10:54       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-07 17:16         ` Paul Burton
2016-11-08  9:12           ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2016-11-05 11:00     ` Paul Burton

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