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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Paul Burton <paul.burton-1AXoQHu6uovQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
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	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Frank Rowand
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	Thorsten Leemhuis
	<regressions-rCxcAJFjeRkk+I/owrrOrA@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
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	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 14:22:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3f0f1f4-d6f6-1e75-499c-789b82b5bb1b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17833033.PtOSTzKXGD@np-p-burton>

Hi,

On 04-11-16 13:30, Paul Burton wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> On Friday, 4 November 2016 13:11:34 GMT Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> While booting 4.9-rc# for the first time on an Allwinner A33 tablet,
>> I noticed that after u-boot the LCD display stayed black. It turns out
>> that there was an issue which caused X to never get up, and all kernel
>> (and other startup) messages prior to that only went to ttyS0 which
>> consists of 2 tiny testpads on the PCB with this tablet.
>>
>> The same issue will also happen on any ARM boards which have a HDMI or
>> composite video output and which use a stdout-path pointing to their
>> serial console. I think this will e.g. also impact the Raspberry Pi,
>> I know for certain that this will impact the 99 different Allwinnner
>> boards currently supported by mainline u-boot + the mainline kernel.
>>
>> This is a behavior changes from previous kernels and I consider this
>> a regression. Thus I propose to revert the commit in question, for more
>> info here is a partial copy of the commit message of the proposed revert:
>>
>> The reverted commit changes existing behavior on which many ARM boards
>> rely. Many ARM small-board-computers, like e.g. the Raspberry Pi have
>> both a video output and a serial console. Depending on whether the user
>> is using the device as a more regular computer; or as a headless device
>> we need to have the console on either one or the other.
>>
>> Many users rely on the kernel behavior of the console being present on
>> both outputs, before the reverted commit the console setup with no
>> console= kernel arguments on an ARM board which sets stdout-path in dt
>> would look like this:
>>
>> [root@localhost ~]# cat /proc/consoles
>> ttyS0                -W- (EC p a)    4:64
>> tty0                 -WU (E  p  )    4:1
>>
>> Where as after the reverted commit, it looks like this:
>>
>> [root@localhost ~]# cat /proc/consoles
>> ttyS0                -W- (EC p a)    4:64
>>
>> This commit reverts commit 05fd007e4629 ("console: don't prefer first
>> registered if DT specifies stdout-path") restoring the original behavior.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hans
>
> Ugh... so the devices you're talking about rely upon set stdout-path in their
> device tree but effectively rely upon us ignoring it?

No they rely on the kernel using stdout-path as an extra console while keeping
tty0 as console, not ignoring it. This how stdout-path has always worked
(at least as long as the Allwinner boards have used it, which has been
  2 - 3 years now).

If you want only the console specified by stdout-path you can get this by
specifying it with console=... on the kernel cmdline.

> If that's the case then I guess reverting is probably the best option, but it
> does restore us to a position where we honor stdout-path for earlycon & then
> essentially ignore it for the proper kernel console. That seems pretty bust to
> me...

We do not ignore it, we use both the tty pointed to by stdout-path and tty0.

Regards,

Hans
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-04 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-04 12:11 [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards Hans de Goede
     [not found] ` <20161104121135.4780-1-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04 12:11   ` [PATCH] Revert "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <20161104121135.4780-2-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04 19:39       ` Andrew Morton
2016-11-08  0:46       ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]         ` <87h97ilrx0.fsf-W0DJWXSxmBNbyGPkN3NxC2scP1bn1w/D@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-08  7:00           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-10 14:14             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-06 12:13   ` [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards Thorsten Leemhuis
2016-11-04 12:30 ` Paul Burton
2016-11-04 13:22   ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2016-11-05 10:40     ` Paul Burton
2016-11-06 10:54       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-07 17:16         ` Paul Burton
2016-11-08  9:12           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-05 11:00     ` Paul Burton

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