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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>, Akhil R <akhilrajeev@nvidia.com>
Cc: Frank.Li@nxp.com, acpica-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, ebiggers@kernel.org,
	krzk+dt@kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, miquel.raynal@bootlin.com,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, rafael@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org,
	sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com, wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/13] arm64: defconfig: Enable I3C and SPD5118 hwmon
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2026 15:33:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d62130c6-c503-479d-99d8-b4f0f0582a4b@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef05d6fd-97d9-4795-9626-e69895e5df74@kernel.org>

On 12/04/2026 15:32, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 11/04/2026 09:20, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On 4/10/26 22:34, Akhil R wrote:
>> [ ... ]
>>>>>> And it
>>>>>> should bring me clear rule what I can or cannot remove from defconfig,
>>>>>> if in 2 years I come and start pruning it from symbols.
>>>
>>> I am still a little confused on what information would likely accept (and
>>> keep) these configs in the defconfig. Would updating the commit message
>>> as below work?
>>>
>>> "These configs enable the support for SPD5118 within the
>>> Small-Outline-Compression-Attached Memory Modules (SOCAMM) LPDDR5X found
>>> in the NVIDIA Vera CPUs. The Vera CPU uses ACPI and is part of platforms
>>> such as Vera Rubin."
>>>
>>
>> It is quite interesting that we argue about SPD5118 which is mandatory in
>> DDR5 systems. At the same time, CONFIG_IGB_HWMON, CONFIG_SENSORS_MACSMC_HWMON,
>> CONFIG_SENSORS_RASPBERRYPI_HWMON, and CONFIG_RTC_DRV_DS3232_HWMON _are_
>> enabled in arm64:defconfig. CONFIG_IGB_HWMON is even built-in.
> 
> Why CONFIG_SENSORS_MACSMC_HWMON is weird? It is part of the soc using
> the defconfig?
> 
> The author here has troubles bringing any arguments why his drivers
> should be defconfig and keeps asking what do I want to hear. If one
> cannot make an argument why a change is needed, then maybe the change
> should not be sent?
> 
> It's the job of the author to convince why the community needs this
> change, unless it is obvious, ofc.
> 
>>
>> It is kind of difficult to understand why those are more important than
>> the temperature sensor on DDR5 modules (or the temperature sensor on DDR4
>> modules, for that matter).
> 
> No one discussed this. I have no clue what is SPD5118 and commit msg did
> not explain that. Did not even provide accurate user of that.
> 
>>
>> I don't know what the policy for defconfig is, but just based on that it does
>> seem to lack consistency.
> 
> No wonder... people write poor commits and send that to upstream. And
> when asked "why do we want this" they got stuck.
> 
>>
>> A separate question is if it is time to enable I3C in default configurations.
>> I'd think so - more and more chip vendors support it, and presumably they would
>> not invest in it if there was no demand, but that is just my personal opinion.
> 
> Isn't I3C needed for SPD5118. Otherwise I understand even less from this
> rationale - why I3C is being enabled here?
> 
> And before author asks what do I want to here: no, it is author's job to
> convince me to accept I3C in defconfig. Not mine.

BTW, all this was asked at v1 and author did not improve the commit msg
beside giving quite broad/unspecific "Vera".

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-12 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-09 10:57 [PATCH v2 00/13] Support ACPI and SETAASA device discovery Akhil R
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] dt-bindings: i3c: Add mipi-i3c-static-method to support SETAASA Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:00   ` Frank Li
2026-04-10  4:30     ` Akhil R
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] ACPICA: Read LVR from the I2C resource descriptor Akhil R
2026-04-09 11:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-04-10  2:04   ` Frank Li
2026-04-10  4:45     ` Akhil R
2026-04-10 10:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-04-11  5:41         ` Akhil R
2026-04-10 10:57     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] i3c: master: Use unified device property interface Akhil R
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] i3c: master: Support ACPI enumeration of child devices Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:17   ` Frank Li
2026-04-10  5:31     ` Akhil R
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] i3c: master: Add support for devices using SETAASA Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:25   ` Frank Li
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] i3c: master: Add support for devices without PID Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:37   ` Frank Li
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] i3c: master: match I3C device through DT and ACPI Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:40   ` Frank Li
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] i3c: dw-i3c-master: Add SETAASA as supported CCC Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:41   ` Frank Li
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] i3c: dw-i3c-master: Add a quirk to skip clock and reset Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:45   ` Frank Li
2026-04-10  6:07     ` Akhil R
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] i3c: dw-i3c-master: Add ACPI ID for Tegra410 Akhil R
2026-04-10  2:47   ` Frank Li
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] hwmon: spd5118: Remove 16-bit addressing Akhil R
2026-04-09 14:11   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] hwmon: spd5118: Add I3C support Akhil R
2026-04-09 14:19   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-04-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] arm64: defconfig: Enable I3C and SPD5118 hwmon Akhil R
2026-04-10  6:39   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-04-10  6:57     ` Guenter Roeck
2026-04-10  7:18       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-04-10  8:37         ` Akhil R
2026-04-10  9:57           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-04-11  5:34             ` Akhil R
2026-04-11  7:20               ` Guenter Roeck
2026-04-12 13:32                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-04-12 13:33                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-04-12 13:21               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-04-10  7:04     ` Akhil R

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