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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Bastien Curutchet <bastien.curutchet@bootlin.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	herve.codina@bootlin.com, maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com,
	christophercordahi@nanometrics.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] leds: trigger: Create a new LED netdev trigger for collision
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 17:03:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6351d0c-15e2-47a9-be6c-6f21aee9ae90@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240227093945.21525-3-bastien.curutchet@bootlin.com>

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:39:41AM +0100, Bastien Curutchet wrote:
> Collisions on link does not fit into one of the existing netdev triggers.
> 
> Add TRIGGER_NETDEV_COLLISION in the enum led_trigger_netdev_modes.
> Add its definition in Documentation.
> Add its handling in ledtrig-netdev, it can only be supported by hardware
> so no software fallback is implemented.

How useful is collision? How did you test this? How did you cause
collisions to see if the LED actually worked?

As far as i can see, this is just a normal 100Base-T PHY. Everybody
uses that point-to-point nowadays. If it was an 100Base-T1, with a
shared medium, good old CSMA/CD then collision might actually be
useful.

I also disagree with not having software fallback:

ip -s link show eth0
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 80:ee:73:83:60:27 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    RX:     bytes    packets errors dropped  missed   mcast           
    4382213540983 2947876747      0       0       0  154890 
    TX:     bytes    packets errors dropped carrier collsns           
      18742773651  197507119      0       0       0       0

collsns = 0. The information is there in a standard format. However,
when did you last see it not 0?

	Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-27 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27  9:39 [PATCH v2 0/6] net: phy: Add TI's DP83640 device tree binding Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-27  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] dt-bindings: net: Add bindings for PHY DP83640 Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-28 11:37   ` Conor Dooley
2024-02-27  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] leds: trigger: Create a new LED netdev trigger for collision Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-27 16:03   ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2024-02-27 16:26     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-29  7:24     ` Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-29 15:17       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-29 16:58         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-27  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] net: phy: DP83640: Add LED handling Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-27  9:58   ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-02-27 10:50     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-28 15:04   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-29  7:28     ` Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-27  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] net: phy: DP83640: Add EDPD management Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-27 10:02   ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-02-27  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] net: phy: DP83640: Explicitly disabling PHY Control Frames Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-27 10:08   ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-02-27  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] net: phy: DP83640: Add fiber mode enabling/disabling from device tree Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-27 11:01   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-27 16:18   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-29  7:31     ` Bastien Curutchet
2024-02-29 15:23       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-03-01 10:37         ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-03-01 14:00           ` Andrew Lunn

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