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From: William Zhang <william.zhang@broadcom.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Linux SPI List <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Broadcom Kernel List <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>
Cc: anand.gore@broadcom.com, tomer.yacoby@broadcom.com,
	dan.beygelman@broadcom.com, joel.peshkin@broadcom.com,
	jonas.gorski@gmail.com, kursad.oney@broadcom.com,
	dregan@mail.com,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add bcmbca-hsspi controller support
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 10:44:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e99a71b2-0b05-1a53-1c29-3778b49a3b86@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0a50234-bc8c-09c4-e2c1-22cbeaba5c15@linaro.org>

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On 01/11/2023 10:12 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 11/01/2023 19:04, William Zhang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 01/11/2023 01:02 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2023 23:18, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> On 1/10/23 00:40, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> No, it is discouraged in such forms. Family or IP block compatibles
>>>>>>> should be prepended with a specific compatible. There were many issues
>>>>>>> when people insisted on generic or family compatibles...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Otherwise we will have to have a compatible string with chip model for
>>>>>>>> each SoC even they share the same IP. We already have more than ten of
>>>>>>>> SoCs and the list will increase.  I don't see this is a good solution too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You will have to do it anyway even with generic fallback, so I don't get
>>>>>>> what is here to gain... I also don't get why Broadcom should be here
>>>>>>> special, different than others. Why it is not a good solution for
>>>>>>> Broadcom SoCs but it is for others?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw a few other vendors like these qcom ones:
>>>>>>      qcom,spi-qup.yaml
>>>>>>          - qcom,spi-qup-v1.1.1 # for 8660, 8960 and 8064
>>>>>>          - qcom,spi-qup-v2.1.1 # for 8974 and later
>>>>>>          - qcom,spi-qup-v2.2.1 # for 8974 v2 and later
>>>>>>      qcom,spi-qup.yaml
>>>>>>          const: qcom,geni-spi
>>>>>
>>>>> IP block version numbers are allowed when there is clear mapping between
>>>>> version and SoCs using it. This is the case for Qualcomm because there
>>>>> is such clear mapping documented and available for Qualcomm engineers
>>>>> and also some of us (although not public).
>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess when individual who only has one particular board/chip and is
>>>>>> not aware of the IP family,  it is understandable to use the chip
>>>>>> specific compatible string.
>>>>>
>>>>> Family of devices is not a versioned IP block.
>>>>
>>>> Would it be acceptable to define for instance:
>>>>
>>>> - compatible = "brcm,bcm6868-hsspi", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi";
>>>
>>> Yes, this is perfectly valid. Although it does not solve William
>>> concerns because it requires defining specific compatibles for all of
>>> the SoCs.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Krzysztof
>>>
>> As I mentioned in another email,  I would be okay to use these
>> compatibles to differentiate by ip rev and to conforms to brcm convention:
>> "brcm,bcmXYZ-hsspi", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.0", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi";
>> "brcm,bcmXYZ-hsspi", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.1", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi";
> 
> 
> Drop the version in such case, no benefits. I assume XYZ is the SoC
> model, so for example 6868.
> 
Yes XYZ is the SoC model
>>
>> In the two drivers I included in this series, it will be bound to
>> brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.0 (in additional to brcm,bcm6328-hsspi) and
>> brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.1 respectively.  This way we don't need to update
>> the driver with a new soc specific compatible whenever a new chips comes
>> out.
> 
> I don't understand why do you bring it now as an argument. You defined
> before that your driver will bind to the generic bcmbca compatible, so
> now it is not enough?
> 
No as we are adding chip model specific info here.  The existing driver 
spi-bcm63xx-hsspi.c only binds to brcm,bcm6328-hsspi. This driver 
supports all the chips with rev1.0 controller so I am using this 6328 
string for other chips with v1.0 in the dts patch, which is not ideal.
Now I have to add more compatible to this driver and for each new chip 
with 1.0 in the future if any.

With all the thoughts from you and Florian,  I think it is better to use 
rev compatible in the driver but add on chip model compatible in the dts.



> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06 20:07 [PATCH 00/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: driver and doc updates William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 01/16] dt-bindings: spi: Convert bcm63xx-hsspi bindings to json-schema William Zhang
2023-01-07 15:18   ` Rob Herring
2023-01-07 15:32   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  7:52     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09  8:48       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 02/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add bcmbca-hsspi controller support William Zhang
2023-01-08 14:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  8:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09  8:56       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09 19:13         ` William Zhang
2023-01-10  8:40           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-10 22:18             ` Florian Fainelli
2023-01-11  1:08               ` William Zhang
2023-01-11  9:02               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11 18:04                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-11 18:12                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11 18:44                     ` William Zhang [this message]
2023-01-12  8:21                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-12 19:50                         ` William Zhang
2023-01-13  7:41                           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-14  3:17                             ` William Zhang
2023-01-15 14:31                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11  0:59             ` William Zhang
2023-01-11  9:01               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 03/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add spi peripheral specific property William Zhang
2023-01-06 21:14   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-07 15:38       ` Rob Herring
2023-01-09  8:06         ` William Zhang
2023-01-09 19:19           ` Mark Brown
2023-01-09 20:18             ` William Zhang
2023-01-10 22:01               ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 19:48                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-08 14:52   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  8:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 04/16] ARM: dts: broadcom: bcmbca: Add spi controller node William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 05/16] arm64: " William Zhang

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