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([2a01:e0a:106d:1080:2f62:6d3:721b:8c9e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-4a039505568sm42454685e9.3.2026.10.02.00.28.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Oct 2026 00:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2026 09:28:59 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: devicetree@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: Neil Armstrong Reply-To: Neil Armstrong Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: display: Add panel-mipi-dsi-bpf generic panel binding To: Maxime Ripard Cc: Rob Herring , Jessica Zhang , David Airlie , Simona Vetter , Maarten Lankhorst , Thomas Zimmermann , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Nathan Chancellor , Nick Desaulniers , Bill Wendling , Justin Stitt , Florian Fainelli , Broadcom internal kernel review list , Andrzej Hajda , Robert Foss , Laurent Pinchart , Jonas Karlman , Jernej Skrabec , Luca Ceresoli , Albert Esteve , Dave Stevenson , Javier Martinez Canillas , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev, linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Benjamin Tissoires References: <20260928-drm-mipi-dsi-panel-ebpf-v1-0-5244926aace4@kernel.org> <20260928-drm-mipi-dsi-panel-ebpf-v1-1-5244926aace4@kernel.org> <20260928204059.GA515872-robh@kernel.org> <742d5bab-51cc-49f0-825a-f299a055bb1e@linaro.org> Content-Language: en-US, fr Autocrypt: addr=neil.armstrong@linaro.org; keydata= xsBNBE1ZBs8BCAD78xVLsXPwV/2qQx2FaO/7mhWL0Qodw8UcQJnkrWmgTFRobtTWxuRx8WWP GTjuhvbleoQ5Cxjr+v+1ARGCH46MxFP5DwauzPekwJUD5QKZlaw/bURTLmS2id5wWi3lqVH4 BVF2WzvGyyeV1o4RTCYDnZ9VLLylJ9bneEaIs/7cjCEbipGGFlfIML3sfqnIvMAxIMZrvcl9 qPV2k+KQ7q+aXavU5W+yLNn7QtXUB530Zlk/d2ETgzQ5FLYYnUDAaRl+8JUTjc0CNOTpCeik 80TZcE6f8M76Xa6yU8VcNko94Ck7iB4vj70q76P/J7kt98hklrr85/3NU3oti3nrIHmHABEB AAHNKk5laWwgQXJtc3Ryb25nIDxuZWlsLmFybXN0cm9uZ0BsaW5hcm8ub3JnPsLAkQQTAQoA OwIbIwULCQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAgMBAAIeAQIXgBYhBInsPQWERiF0UPIoSBaat7Gkz/iuBQJk Q5wSAhkBAAoJEBaat7Gkz/iuyhMIANiD94qDtUTJRfEW6GwXmtKWwl/mvqQtaTtZID2dos04 YqBbshiJbejgVJjy+HODcNUIKBB3PSLaln4ltdsV73SBcwUNdzebfKspAQunCM22Mn6FBIxQ GizsMLcP/0FX4en9NaKGfK6ZdKK6kN1GR9YffMJd2P08EO8mHowmSRe/ExAODhAs9W7XXExw UNCY4pVJyRPpEhv373vvff60bHxc1k/FF9WaPscMt7hlkbFLUs85kHtQAmr8pV5Hy9ezsSRa GzJmiVclkPc2BY592IGBXRDQ38urXeM4nfhhvqA50b/nAEXc6FzqgXqDkEIwR66/Gbp0t3+r yQzpKRyQif3OwE0ETVkGzwEIALyKDN/OGURaHBVzwjgYq+ZtifvekdrSNl8TIDH8g1xicBYp QTbPn6bbSZbdvfeQPNCcD4/EhXZuhQXMcoJsQQQnO4vwVULmPGgtGf8PVc7dxKOeta+qUh6+ SRh3vIcAUFHDT3f/Zdspz+e2E0hPV2hiSvICLk11qO6cyJE13zeNFoeY3ggrKY+IzbFomIZY 4yG6xI99NIPEVE9lNBXBKIlewIyVlkOaYvJWSV+p5gdJXOvScNN1epm5YHmf9aE2ZjnqZGoM Mtsyw18YoX9BqMFInxqYQQ3j/HpVgTSvmo5ea5qQDDUaCsaTf8UeDcwYOtgI8iL4oHcsGtUX oUk33HEAEQEAAcLAXwQYAQIACQUCTVkGzwIbDAAKCRAWmrexpM/4rrXiB/sGbkQ6itMrAIfn M7IbRuiSZS1unlySUVYu3SD6YBYnNi3G5EpbwfBNuT3H8//rVvtOFK4OD8cRYkxXRQmTvqa3 3eDIHu/zr1HMKErm+2SD6PO9umRef8V82o2oaCLvf4WeIssFjwB0b6a12opuRP7yo3E3gTCS KmbUuLv1CtxKQF+fUV1cVaTPMyT25Od+RC1K+iOR0F54oUJvJeq7fUzbn/KdlhA8XPGzwGRy 4zcsPWvwnXgfe5tk680fEKZVwOZKIEuJC3v+/yZpQzDvGYJvbyix0lHnrCzq43WefRHI5XTT QbM0WUIBIcGmq38+OgUsMYu4NzLu7uZFAcmp6h8g Organization: Linaro In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/1/26 09:09, Maxime Ripard wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 03:32:19PM +0200, Neil Armstrong wrote: >> On 9/29/26 10:39, Maxime Ripard wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> panel-mipi-dsi-spi is a generic panel that will load a firmware, and >>> quite similar to this one. google,android-pipe and qcom,fastrpc don't >>> attach to anything and will just open a tunnel to userspace, which is >>> somewhat equivalent but more dramatic than what this driver is doing. >>> simple-card or its variations will just instantiate a kernel driver from >>> the DT and is used pretty much everywhere. >>> >>> I reused the binding from panel-mipi-dsi-spi for this. It was reviewed >>> by rob, and acked by a panel maintainer, and 4 years ago, so we're way >>> past the "oh but we didn't know what we were doing back then" argument. >>> >>> So, let's phrase this differently: what's different about the >>> description than panel-mipi-dsi-spi, or any other binding already in >>> tree? >> >> The panel-mipi-dsi-spi still describes a class of H/W control interface, >> not a pure software driver implementation type. >> >> "panel-mipi-dsi-bpf" or "panel-mipi-dsi-rust" or "panel-mipi-dsi-cplusplus" >> would be the same problem. > > Rob explicitly said the bpf part wasn't the problem. Also, I don't care > for the compatible itself, so what would be an acceptable compatible for > you? > >>> If it's the BPF part, BPF is not Linux-only, and there's hardware with >>> direct BPF support these days, so it can be considered OS-agnostic and >>> not an implementation detail. >> >> If somehow panels used a standardized MIPI firmware we could define this >> in DT, but here we're basically inventing our own type of firmware from >> thin air. > > That's not what panel-mipi-dsi-spi is. What you describe is how it's implemented in software Neil > > Maxime