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From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/fsl: add device tree binding for QE firmware
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:42:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed82fe3e1003250742t5affee7dudca651ab3352bc16@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65327.84.105.60.153.1269481760.squirrel@gate.crashing.org>

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Segher Boessenkool
<segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:

> I do; I consider that indirection thing (and putting firmware blobs
> in the device tree at all, but to a lesser extent) as making a mess
> of your device binding.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

> Let's forget that I do not like putting a firmware blob in the
> device tree if you can at all avoid that; Grant is on that already.

The initrd thing is a good idea, but it doesn't help non-Linux
operating systems.  Then again, those OS's might not have any GPL
issues, so it could be a moot point.

> As far as I can see, you want that indirection node so that you
> safe space in the DTB.

No, I want the indirection node so that I can have multiple QE nodes
point to the same binary data in the DTB.  I don't want to have to do
this:

qe@e8000000 {
    fsl,firmware = /incbin/("firmware-file-name.bin");
    ...
}

qe@e9000000 {
    fsl,firmware = /incbin/("firmware-file-name.bin");
    ...
}

In this case, I have an SOC with two QE devices, so it has two QE
nodes.  Each needs to be initialized by uploading the same microcode
to it.

> With real OF it is trivial to not have
> multiple copies of the data if you want a few properties with
> the same data.  There is no reason this could not be done in DTB
> as well (and some way in DTS to express that, or maybe the tools
> could auto-detect it, whatever).

So you're suggesting a change to DTC to support an enhanced syntax?

> Or you could just zip the DTB.

Sorry, I don't understand how that would help me.

> Can't you link it into the kernel then?  Seems a better place for
> it to me.  Of course you said something about GPL, heh.

Yes, the firmware is not GPL, so I can't link it into the kernel.
Believe me, it would have solved a lot of problems if we could.

-- 
Timur Tabi
Linux kernel developer at Freescale

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 21:42 [PATCH] powerpc/fsl: add device tree binding for QE firmware Timur Tabi
2010-03-24  6:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-24 12:05   ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]     ` <ed82fe3e1003240505h59d29c83x6948f8b3b70c4570-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-24 17:00       ` Segher Boessenkool
2010-03-24 17:07         ` Grant Likely
     [not found]           ` <fa686aa41003241007mf6052d5s4643795f4a87cdcf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-24 17:31             ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 18:10               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                 ` <fa686aa41003241110u75e9486dn503c6b039944708c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-24 18:21                   ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-24 18:25                 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 18:24               ` M. Warner Losh
     [not found]                 ` <20100324.122428.1108826596399277216.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-24 18:31                   ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]               ` <4BAA4C8A.70104-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25  1:49                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2010-03-25 14:42                   ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2010-03-25 16:10                     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                       ` <fa686aa41003250910n437e4e73p34645f5627d25784-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 16:34                         ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                           ` <4BAB90B1.9080603-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 16:46                             ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 18:23                               ` Rafal Jaworowski
     [not found]                     ` <ed82fe3e1003250742t5affee7dudca651ab3352bc16-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 23:53                       ` M. Warner Losh
     [not found]                         ` <20100325.175343.706994262324563953.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-26  0:22                           ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                   ` <65327.84.105.60.153.1269481760.squirrel-JorI+TVEvZrY24RiXHRV3ti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 15:16                     ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                       ` <4BAB7E67.6040707-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 15:29                         ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                           ` <4BAB816F.5060405-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 16:16                             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                               ` <fa686aa41003250916t3d0839e5m42d7f7f6540e821a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 16:36                                 ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                   ` <4BAB9120.1060600-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 16:50                                     ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 16:59                                   ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 17:03                                     ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 17:35                                       ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 18:05                                         ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                         ` <fa686aa41003251035h3574a2bahce183ca6056e5f7e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 19:53                                           ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 20:04                                             ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 21:54                                               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                                 ` <fa686aa41003251454y94f787fva07c5c73fc2d7874-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 22:19                                                   ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 21:39                                             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                               ` <fa686aa41003251439t23c04581n16d064c27d2516f4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 22:47                                                 ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                                     ` <fa686aa41003250959v401d14e0g151aa54a57eea39-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 21:22                                       ` David Gibson
2010-03-26  1:26                                   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                     ` <fa686aa41003251826m16ea94dfy422fae14fec81204-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-26 15:17                                       ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 18:20                                         ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:39                                           ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                             ` <4BACFF7B.3010002-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-26 18:44                                               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                                 ` <fa686aa41003261144i61429f23x1217a528fcfb3e66-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-26 18:48                                                   ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                                     ` <4BAD018B.6010309-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-26 18:56                                                       ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:58                                                       ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                                                         ` <4BAD03E2.9020207-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-26 19:07                                                           ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:48                                               ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-24 18:27             ` Scott Wood

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