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From: William Qiu <william.qiu@starfivetech.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
Cc: <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Emil Renner Berthing" <kernel@esmil.dk>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@samsung.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] dt-bindings: mmc: Drop unused properties
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 10:33:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <efab6f52-4d7f-ea3c-0fc3-4e3ad03c14c7@starfivetech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230830-procedure-frostbite-56c751f7c276@wendy>



On 2023/8/30 16:34, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 09:29:20AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 30/08/2023 08:50, Conor Dooley wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 11:18:44AM +0800, William Qiu wrote:
>> >> Due to the change of tuning implementation, it's no longer necessary to
>> >> use the "starfive,sysreg" property in dts, so drop the relevant
>> >> description in dt-bindings here.
>> > 
>> > How does changing your software implantation invalidate a description of
>> > the hardware?
>> > 
>> 
>> Which is kind of proof that this syscon was just to substitute
>> incomplete hardware description (e.g. missing clocks and phys). We
>> should have rejected it. Just like we should reject them in the future.
> 
> :s I dunno what to do with this... I'm inclined to say not to remove it
> from the binding or dts at all & only change the software.
> 
>> There are just few cases where syscon is reasonable. All others is just
>> laziness. It's not only starfivetech, of course. Several other
>> contributors do the same.
> 
> I'm not sure if laziness is fair, lack of understanding is usually more
> likely.

For this, I tend to keep it in binding, but remove it from required. Because
we only modify the tuning implementation, it doesn't mean that this property
need to be removed, it's just no longer be the required one.

Best Regards,
William

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-01  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-30  3:18 [PATCH v1 0/3] Change tuning implementation William Qiu
2023-08-30  3:18 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] dt-bindings: mmc: Drop unused properties William Qiu
2023-08-30  6:50   ` Conor Dooley
2023-08-30  7:29     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-30  8:34       ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-01  2:33         ` William Qiu [this message]
2023-09-01 15:42           ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-01 17:20             ` Jessica Clarke
2023-09-01 17:43               ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-01 18:39                 ` Jessica Clarke
2023-09-08 10:01                 ` William Qiu
2023-09-08 13:32                   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-11 16:14                     ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-12  2:00                       ` William Qiu
2023-08-30  3:18 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] mmc: starfive: Change tuning implementation William Qiu
2023-08-30 10:28   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-01  2:40     ` William Qiu
2023-08-30  3:18 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] riscv: dts: starfive: Drop unused properties and limit frquency William Qiu

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