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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
Cc: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] net: stmmac: register parent MDIO node for sun8i-h3-emac
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 09:31:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f14fe754-6339-32a0-3439-2daff6dd1d7e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170823074942.yt3c5gvnmdw5pqge@flea.home>

On 08/23/2017 12:49 AM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Hi Florian,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:35:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>>> So I think what you are saying is either impossible or engineering-wise
>>>>> a very stupid design, like using an external MAC with a discrete PHY
>>>>> connected to the internal MAC's MDIO bus, while using the internal MAC
>>>>> with the internal PHY.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now can we please decide on something? We're a week and a half from
>>>>> the 4.13 release. If mdio-mux is wrong, then we could have two mdio
>>>>> nodes (internal-mdio & external-mdio).
>>>>
>>>> I really don't see a need for a mdio-mux in the first place, just have
>>>> one MDIO controller (current state) sub-node which describes the
>>>> built-in STMMAC MDIO controller and declare the internal PHY as a child
>>>> node (along with 'phy-is-integrated'). If a different configuration is
>>>> used, then just put the external PHY as a child node there.
>>>>
>>>> If fixed-link is required, the mdio node becomes unused anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Works for everyone?
>>>
>>> If we put an external PHY with reg=1 as a child of internal MDIO,
>>> il will be merged with internal PHY node and get
>>> phy-is-integrated.
>>
>> Then have the .dtsi file contain just the mdio node, but no internal or
>> external PHY and push all the internal and external PHY node definition
>> (in its entirety) to the per-board DTS file, does not that work?
> 
> If possible, I'd really like to have the internal PHY in the
> DTSI. It's always there in hardware anyway, and duplicating the PHY,
> with its clock, reset line, and whatever info we might need in the
> future in each and every board DTS that uses it will be very error
> prone and we will have the usual bunch of issues that come up with
> duplication.

OK, then what if you put the internal PHY in the DTSI, mark it with a
status = "disabled" property, and have the per-board DTS put a status =
"okay" property along with a "phy-is-integrated" boolean property? Would
that work?

What I really don't think is necessary is:

- duplicating the "mdio" controller node for external vs. internal PHY,
because this is not accurate, there is just one MDIO controller, but
there may be different kinds of MDIO/PHY devices attached

- having the STMMAC driver MDIO probing code having to deal with a
"mdio" sub-node or an "internal-mdio" sub-node because this is confusing
and requiring more driver-level changes that are error prone

Thanks
-- 
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-23 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-18 12:21 [PATCH v3 0/4] net: stmmac: Detect PHY location with phy-is-integrated Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] ARM: dts: sunxi: h3/h5: represent the mdio switch used by sun8i-h3-emac Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] net: stmmac: dwmac-sun8i: choose internal PHY via phy-is-integrated Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 16:58   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-22 16:40   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] net: stmmac: register parent MDIO node for sun8i-h3-emac Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 17:05   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-19 18:50     ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-19 20:38       ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]         ` <20170819203836.GA21567-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-20  6:57           ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-20 14:25             ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-21  8:10               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-21 13:20                 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-21 13:31                   ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]                     ` <20170821133104.qvrhvwin2rdg4aqo-ZC1Zs529Oq4@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 14:23                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-22  7:59                         ` Corentin Labbe
     [not found]                         ` <20170821142321.GE1703-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-22 15:39                           ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]                             ` <CAGb2v64E4T=1ff3POGuXZA=MvjGAnKQ6OF6A3sT_cU-=jh6zNw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-22 16:40                               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-22 18:11                                 ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-22 18:35                                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-22 19:37                                     ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-23  7:49                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-08-23 16:31                                       ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2017-08-24  8:12                                         ` Maxime Ripard
2017-08-24  8:21                                         ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-24 19:44                                           ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-24 19:59                                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-25  2:54                                             ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]                                               ` <CAGb2v64jrDPSff+QL_PQBMaQJ+CcTVbskjuOUd1OqR4smbu+ig-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-25  3:05                                                 ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                                                   ` <77ff97c1-9d0a-8b3f-d0b9-25c951f86fec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-25  3:41                                                     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-25  3:59                                                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-25 13:26                                                         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-22 16:50                               ` Maxime Ripard
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] dt-bindings: net: dwmac-sun8i: update documentation about integrated PHY Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 16:57   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-19 18:33     ` Corentin Labbe

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