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From: Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: use svs clk control APIs
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 13:09:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f49ad56c-a5fd-5e51-f812-a2941b5681d6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <615b406692504bb68bd781030023c0fa7b2bd11e.camel@mediatek.com>



On 06/02/2023 03:01, Roger Lu (陸瑞傑) wrote:
> Hi Matthias Sir,
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2023-02-02 at 11:29 +0100, Matthias Brugger wrote:
>> 你好,
> 
> I got shock and thought someone used your name to reply. However,
> your email account helps me clear my mind. Haha.. Nice and warm to see mandarin
> on patchwork. It's so fresh and exciting :-).
> 

谢谢。 I'm learning mainland Chinese for a few month now, I also learned that you 
use different symbols in Taiwan, which I don't know. 对不起。

>>
>> On 01/02/2023 13:28, Roger Lu (陸瑞傑) wrote:
>>> Hi Matthias Sir,
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2023-01-31 at 14:19 +0100, Matthias Brugger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/01/2023 08:45, Roger Lu wrote:
>>>>> In MediaTek HW design, svs and thermal both use the same clk source.
>>>>> It means that svs clk reference count from CCF includes thermal control
>>>>> counts. That makes svs driver confuse whether it disabled svs's main clk
>>>>> or not from CCF's perspective and lead to turn off their shared clk
>>>>> unexpectedly. Therefore, we add svs clk control APIs to make sure svs's
>>>>> main clk is controlled well by svs driver itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a NG example. Rely on CCF's reference count and cause problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> thermal probe (clk ref = 1)
>>>>> -> svs probe (clk ref = 2)
>>>>>       -> svs suspend (clk ref = 1)
>>>>>          -> thermal suspend (clk ref = 0)
>>>>>          -> thermal resume (clk ref = 1)
>>>>>       -> svs resume (encounter error, clk ref = 1)
>>>>>       -> svs suspend (clk ref = 0)
>>>>>          -> thermal suspend (Fail here, thermal HW control w/o clk)
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixes: a825d72f74a3 ("soc: mediatek: fix missing clk_disable_unprepare()
>>>>> on
>>>>> err in svs_resume()")
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Roger Lu <roger.lu@mediatek.com>
>>>>
>>>> That looks wrong. Although I don't out of my mind, there should be a way
>>>> to
>>>> tell
>>>> the clock framework that this clock is shared between several devices.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if using clk_enable and clk_disable in svs_resume/suspend
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> be
>>>> enough.
>>>
>>> Oh yes, Common Clock Framework (CCF) knows the clock shared between several
>>> devices and maintains clock "on/off" by reference count.
>>>
>>
>> The thing is if you use clk_prepare_enable then the clock framework check's
>> if
>> the clock is already prepared, which could happen like you described in the
>> svs_resume (encount error) case in the commit message. The question is, can't
>> we
>> just use clk_enable and clk_disable in resume/suspend and only prepare the
>> clock
>> in the probe function?
> 
> We'll think if this can fix the problem. Thanks for the advice very much.
> 
>>
>>> We concern how to stop running svs_suspend() when svs clk is already
>>> disabled by
>>> svs_resume(). Take an example as below, if we refers to __clk_is_enabled()
>>> result for knowing svs clk status, it will return "true" all the time
>>> because
>>> thermal clk is still on. This causes the problem mentioned in commit
>>> message.
>>>
>>
>> I would expect that the kernel takes care that we can't enter a resume path
>> for
>> a device before the suspend path has finished. Honestly I don't really
>> understand the problem here. It seems something different then what you
>> described in the commit message.
>>
>> Please help me understand better.
> 
> I see. This patch title needs to be changed to "avoid turning off svs clk twice
> unexpectedly" for pointing out the problem precisely. We saw a loophole that svs
> clk might be turned off in svs_resume() first and in svs_suspend() again without
> enabling svs clk during these the process. Therefore, we try to fix it by this
> patch. Below is our thinking process to explain how we got here.
> 
> 1. (abandoned) We add __clk_is_enabled() check in svs_suspend() to prevent svs
> clk from being turned off twice when svs_resume() turned off svs clk in the
> error-handling process. Nonetheless, we met the NG case in the commit message.
> 2. (current patch) We add svs clk control hint to understand if we need to run
> svs_suspend() or not if svs_resume() turned off svs clk before.
> 

Did you had a look on the dev_pm_ops? Maybe we can use suspend_late, 
resume_early to make sure there is no race condition. I wonder also if we can't 
make sure that this does not happen using device links. Sorry, I can't give 
better guidance on how to use this technologies, but I have the feeling we can 
fix this with existing infrastructure.

再见。

Matthias

>>
>> 谢谢,再见
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Roger Lu

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-11  7:45 [PATCH v4 0/14] Enahance SVS's robustness Roger Lu
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: restore default voltages when svs_init02() fail Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:22   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: reset svs when svs_resume() fail Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:22   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: enable the IRQ later Roger Lu
2023-01-31 12:59   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-02-01 13:43     ` Roger Lu (陸瑞傑)
2023-02-01 13:47       ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: Use pm_runtime_resume_and_get() in svs_init01() Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:23   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: use svs clk control APIs Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:19   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-02-01 12:28     ` Roger Lu (陸瑞傑)
2023-02-02 10:29       ` Matthias Brugger
2023-02-06  2:01         ` Roger Lu (陸瑞傑)
2023-02-06 12:09           ` Matthias Brugger [this message]
2023-02-11 11:34             ` Roger Lu (陸瑞傑)
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: add thermal voltage compensation if needed Roger Lu
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: keep svs alive if CONFIG_DEBUG_FS not supported Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:24   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: clean up platform probing Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:24   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: improve readability of platform_probe Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:24   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: move svs_platform_probe into probe Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:25   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: delete superfluous platform data entries Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:30   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: use svs get efuse common function Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:37   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-02-01  8:15     ` Roger Lu (陸瑞傑)
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] soc: mediatek: mtk-svs: use common function to disable restore voltages Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:40   ` Matthias Brugger
2023-02-01  8:13     ` Roger Lu (陸瑞傑)
2023-01-11  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] soc: mtk-svs: mt8183: refactor o_slope calculation Roger Lu
2023-01-31 13:41   ` Matthias Brugger

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