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From: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-pci-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-rockchip-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Wenrui Li <wenrui.li-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>,
	Brian Norris
	<briannorris-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	Jeffy Chen <jeffy.chen-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 2/2] PCI: rockchip: Add quirk to disable RC's ASPM L0s
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:52:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9cd9cab-9d73-7749-a76e-90dd276b3b83@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161115222649.uymslcg2fyfwtxpd@rob-hp-laptop>

Hi Rob,

On 2016/11/16 6:26, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:11:06PM +0800, Shawn Lin wrote:
>> Rockchip's RC outputs 100MHz reference clock but there are
>> two methods for PHY to generate it.
>>
>> (1)One of them is to use system PLL to generate 100MHz clock and
>> the PHY will relock it and filter signal noise then outputs the
>> reference clock.
>>
>> (2)Another way is to share Soc's 24MHZ crystal oscillator with
>> PHY and force PHY's DLL to generate 100MHz internally.
>>
>> When using case(2), the exit from L0s doesn't work fine occasionally
>> due to the broken design of RC receiver's logical circuit. So even if
>> we use extended-synch, it still fails for PHY to relock the bits from
>> FTS sometimes. This will hang the system.
>>
>> Maybe we could argue that why not use case(1) to avoid it? The reason
>> is that as we could see the reference clock is derived from system PLL
>> and the path from it to PHY isn't so clean which means there are some
>> noise introduced by power-domain and other buses can't be filterd out
>> by PHY and we could see noise from the frequency spectrum by oscilloscope.
>> This makes the TX compatibility test a little difficult to pass the spec.
>> So case(1) and case(2) are both used indeed now. If using case(2), we
>> should disable RC's L0s support, and that is why we need this property to
>> indicate this quirk.
>
> Doesn't the driver know which case it is using? I don't see why you need
> the quirk property.

Unfortunately it doesn't. This is one of the pre-input clock for PHY but
doesn't get any indication from the register of both PHY and controller.
So assigning a quirk seems quite straightforward.

>>
>> Also after checking quirk.c, I noticed there is already a quirk for
>> disabling L0s unconditionally, quirk_disable_aspm_l0s. But obviously we
>> shouldn't do that as mentioned above that case(1) could still works fine
>> with L0s.
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Best Regards
Shawn Lin

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-16  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14  4:11 [RESEND PATCH 1/2] PCI: rockchip: cleanup bit definition for PCIE_RC_CONFIG_LCS Shawn Lin
     [not found] ` <1479096666-112668-1-git-send-email-shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-14  4:11   ` [RESEND PATCH 2/2] PCI: rockchip: Add quirk to disable RC's ASPM L0s Shawn Lin
     [not found]     ` <1479096666-112668-2-git-send-email-shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-15 22:26       ` Rob Herring
2016-11-16  0:52         ` Shawn Lin [this message]
2016-11-29 15:34       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]         ` <CAL_JsqKkK15Jb3tWh1Mw7RU6d8=6RYMjSEs-c4EQySaUAwnFUA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 17:25           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-11-30  0:41           ` Shawn Lin
2016-11-14 22:26   ` [RESEND PATCH 1/2] PCI: rockchip: cleanup bit definition for PCIE_RC_CONFIG_LCS Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]     ` <20161114222604.GJ9868-1RhO1Y9PlrlHTL0Zs8A6p5iNqAH0jzoTYJqu5kTmcBRl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-15  1:09       ` Shawn Lin
2016-11-14 22:50   ` Bjorn Helgaas

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