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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: sashiko-bot@kernel.org, sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev,
	sashiko@lists.linux.dev,
	Linux Kernel Workflows <workflows@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	kfree@google.com
Subject: Re: Stop false review statements
Date: Sat, 16 May 2026 05:23:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd3b2ca7-4d64-4c4b-98a3-7d3285fa6826@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <221cc52e-9918-43ea-b196-622a8cc6db05@kernel.org>

On 5/16/26 05:16, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 16/05/2026 14:11, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On Sat, May 16, 2026 at 10:05:02AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> What the hell is that:
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260515190707.033BDC2BCB0@smtp.kernel.org/
>>>
>>> As a bot you CANNOT MAKE a Reviewer's statement of oversight. You are
>>> not a damn human do be able to make such statement. You are a bot, a tool.
>>>
>>
>> Where exactly do the rules say that ? I seem to miss that.
>>
>> There is a policy document about _contributions_ made by AI, but I don't
>> see the one that says that AI agents must not provide Reviewed-by: tags.
> 
> Quotes from the existing policy:
> 
> 1. "By offering my Reviewed-by: tag, I state that:"
> 
> Tool cannot use first person "I". Tool cannot "state that".
> 
> 2. "A Reviewed-by tag is *a statement of opinion* that the patch is an
>   appropriate modification of the kernel without any remaining serious"
> 
> Tool cannot make a statement of opinion.
> 
> 3. "Any interested reviewer (who has done the work) can offer a
> Reviewed-by".
> 
> Tool is not a reviewer as a person, thus above does not grant the tool
> permission to offer a tag.
> 

I'd like to see that explicitly spelled out. Until then it is your opinion.

>>
>>> Stop faking tags.
>>>
>>> And really, considering how many false positives Sashiko produces, how
>>> poor review comments it gives, how many misleading comments, it's
>>> unacceptable to me to consider that a review.
>>>
>>> Amount of useless noise Sashiko produces already changed my mind how
>>> useful that tool is.
>>
>> We seem to have completely different experiences. Yes, it does produce
>> false positives, just like humans do. However, I have seen it find many
>> real bugs, including many in patches which already had Reviewed-by: tags
>> from (presumably) human reviewers.
> 
> Of course it finds bugs. But it also produces - roughly - 80-90% false
> positives, completely useless.
> 

Really ? The ones I have seen are - roughly, to use the same term - 80-90%
true positives. Maybe you should explicitly ask for no Sashiko reviews in
your scope of responsibility.

Thanks,
Guenter


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-16 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-16  8:05 Stop false review statements Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-16 12:11 ` Guenter Roeck
2026-05-16 12:16   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-16 12:23     ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2026-05-16 12:29       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-16 13:24         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-05-16 13:45           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-16 15:20   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev

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