From: Kevin Hilman <khilman-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Neil Armstrong
<narmstrong-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-amlogic-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Martin Blumenstingl
<martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Carlo Caione <carlo-KA+7E9HrN00dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/18] ARM64: meson: DT cleanups
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 15:34:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2d1b75d0i.fsf@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5fb0130c-473e-dc15-b60c-e5b6144031ad-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org> ("Andreas Färber"'s message of "Mon, 15 May 2017 21:10:58 +0200")
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Färber <afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org> writes:
> Am 15.05.2017 um 10:16 schrieb Neil Armstrong:
[...]
>>
>> It's not perfect, but now it's done, live with it, this has already been discussed.
>
> No.
>
> Copy&pasting your comment N times does not make it any more valid. My
> files, my rules - I insist on vega-s95, gxbb and gx, which you guys
> refactored out from my gxbb, to be tidy.
hmm, "my files, my rules, ... my gxbb"
Very interesting perspective, but sorry, these do not belong to you.
They belong to the kernel community. You can insist if you like, but we
do not make decisions just because someone says "mine". Again, the
confrontaional tone is not helpful to the dialogue.
[...]
>>
>> Well, this is why we have 7 rc releases after the merge window...
>
> If Kevin is the maintainer, then he needs to carefully review patches.
Thank you for implying that I don't carefully review patches. You're
winning me over. :(
Please see my reply to the cover letter as to why this kind of thing has
not been on my priority list of things I look for during review.
> It is not my job to review all patches when BayLibre gets paid for it!
You have no idea who is getting paid for what kind of work, so please
don't make decisions about what you review based on your assumptions.
[...]
> I will also remind that I was forced to clean up the node order in ALL
> exynos5250 .dts files before I could get my new exynos5250-spring.dts
> merged, so I have zero understanding about these "churn" and "live with
> it" comments here. The same rules need to apply to all
It's a nice ideal that the same rules would apply to all, and in some
areas of the kernel, it may be true. However, in actual practice,
across the variety of kernel subsystems and platforms, there are in fact
a rather large variety of "rules" with a huge amount of discretion left
up to the maintainers.
While that is a point of endless frustration for some (many?) it's also
part of what makes the kernel community healthy, vibrant and still
alive.
Look, you convinced me based on sound technical arguments, good code,
well written changelogs and persistence, even in spite of your
accusatory tone and insinuations.
For future reference, I'd be much happier to review without the latter.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-13 14:33 [PATCH v2 00/18] ARM64: meson: DT cleanups Andreas Färber
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] dt-bindings: arm: amlogic: Reorder boards Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:07 ` Neil Armstrong
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-2-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 1:27 ` Rob Herring
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] arm64: dts: amlogic: Sort Makefile Andreas Färber
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-3-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-14 4:28 ` Chris Moore
[not found] ` <2e9efe9b-6bfe-ab69-8811-c85e1a8ec9f9-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-14 10:06 ` Andreas Färber
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb-vega-s95: Fix Wifi node name Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxl-s905x-khadas-vim: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-7-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-15 20:16 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxm-nexbox-a1: Drop UART comment Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxl-s905x: Comment typo fix Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb-wetek-hub: Reference CVBS node by label Andreas Färber
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-10-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb: Fix node order Andreas Färber
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-11-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-15 18:56 ` Andreas Färber
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb-odroidc2: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb-nexbox-a95x: " Andreas Färber
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-14-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb-p20x: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxl: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxl-s905x-nexbox-a95x: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxm-nexbox-a1: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:16 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] arm64: dts: meson-gx-p23x-q20x: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:16 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-15 8:16 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] ARM64: meson: DT cleanups Neil Armstrong
[not found] ` <36c02d8a-d3e2-4330-f600-e49a1ba680e8-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-15 19:10 ` Andreas Färber
[not found] ` <5fb0130c-473e-dc15-b60c-e5b6144031ad-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-15 20:24 ` Martin Blumenstingl
[not found] ` <CAFBinCA18Y0CXvu4DtDnz=zvYxpqUNA5WRK5teO_T8zTVj4FnQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-20 13:50 ` Andreas Färber
2017-05-17 22:34 ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
[not found] ` <m2d1b75d0i.fsf-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-20 13:16 ` Andreas Färber
[not found] ` <8b61eb79-8a63-6f74-b461-30b99ceeecea-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-25 21:22 ` Carlo Caione
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-1-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb-p20x: Fix Wifi node name Andreas Färber
[not found] ` <20170513143337.14278-5-afaerber-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] arm64: dts: meson-gx-p23x-q20x: " Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-13 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] arm64: dts: meson-gxbb-vega-s95: Fix node order Andreas Färber
2017-05-15 8:17 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-17 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] ARM64: meson: DT cleanups Kevin Hilman
[not found] ` <m2mvab88dh.fsf-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-20 15:48 ` Andreas Färber
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