From: wangzicheng <wangzicheng@honor.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
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Subject: RE: [RFC v2 0/3] mm/mglru: proactive aging via memory.aging
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 06:37:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a218053083e41c8bc7aacc552c7f38c@honor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260715140046.GO276793@cmpxchg.org>
> Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/3] mm/mglru: proactive aging via memory.aging
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 08:15:26PM +0800, Zicheng Wang wrote:
> > MGLRU inverts the reclaim order when anonymous memory is faulted in
> > bulk: anonymous pages sit in the young generations while file pages
> > sit in the oldest two, so reclaim evicts hot file pages before cold
> > anonymous pages.
>
> An aging inversion in the reclaim algorithm seems like an exceedingly
> poor justification for a userspace interface to work around them.
Hi Johannes,
Thanks for the reply.
I agree the aging inversion is a real defect, and I have no good fix
for it. But aging is not a workaround for it. Aging is a `MGLRU feature':
rebalancing the generations lets MGLRU's swappiness work as designed,
and we measure gains on both Android and file-cache-bound server
workloads.
The capability already exists in debugfs (the lru_gen "+" command), but
production systems like Android cannot mount debugfs. memory.aging is a
feasible path to that existing primitive. We ship it as a GKI module
across kernels 6.6, 6.12 and 6.18 (Qcom and MTK), with stable
gains on both Android and server workloads. Having it in-tree would be
very helpful.
Best,
Zicheng
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-16 6:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-14 12:15 [RFC v2 0/3] mm/mglru: proactive aging via memory.aging Zicheng Wang
2026-07-14 12:15 ` [RFC v2 1/3] mm/lru_gen: add AGING counter and proactive aging helper Zicheng Wang
2026-07-14 12:15 ` [RFC v2 2/3] mm: memcontrol: add memory.aging cgroup v2 file Zicheng Wang
2026-07-14 12:15 ` [RFC v2 3/3] mm/lru_gen: expose oldest-generation page counts in memory.stat Zicheng Wang
2026-07-15 14:00 ` [RFC v2 0/3] mm/mglru: proactive aging via memory.aging Johannes Weiner
2026-07-16 6:37 ` wangzicheng [this message]
2026-07-15 17:55 ` T.J. Mercier
2026-07-16 2:29 ` Ridong Chen
2026-07-16 3:49 ` wangzicheng
2026-07-16 3:34 ` wangzicheng
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