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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	"Peter Newman" <peternewman@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>, <x86@kernel.org>
Cc: Shaopeng Tan <tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] x86/resctrl: mba_MBps: Fall back to total b/w if local b/w unavailable
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 14:43:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0cee68e9-e188-46e9-83a8-02259a9c081f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231026200214.16017-1-tony.luck@intel.com>

Hi Tony,

On 10/26/2023 1:02 PM, Tony Luck wrote:
> On Intel the various resource director technology (RDT) features are all
> orthogonal and independently enumerated. Thus it is possible to have
> a system that  provides "total" memory bandwidth measurements without
> providing "local" bandwidth measurements.

This motivation is written in support of Intel systems but from what I
can tell the changes impact Intel as well as AMD.

> 
> If local bandwidth measurement is not available, do not give up on
> providing the "mba_MBps" feedback option completely, make the code fall
> back to using total bandwidth.

It is interesting to me that the "fall back" is essentially a drop-in
replacement without any adjustments to the data/algorithm.

Can these measurements be considered equivalent? Could a user now perhaps
want to experiment by disabling local bandwidth measurement to explore if
system behaves differently when using total memory bandwidth? What
would have a user choose one over the other (apart from when user
is forced by system ability)?

> 
> Signed-off-by: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> ---
> Change since v2:
> 
> Babu doesn't like the global variable. So here's a version without it.
> 
> Note that my preference is still the v2 version. But as I tell newbies
> to Linux "Your job isn't to get YOUR patch upstream. You job is to get
> the problem fixed.".  So taking my own advice I don't really mind
> whether v2 or v3 is applied.
> 
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c  | 43 ++++++++++++++++++--------
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/rdtgroup.c |  2 +-
>  2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c
> index f136ac046851..29e86310677d 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c
> @@ -418,6 +418,20 @@ static int __mon_event_count(u32 rmid, struct rmid_read *rr)
>  	return 0;
>  }
>  
> +/*
> + * For legacy compatibility use the local memory bandwidth to drive
> + * the mba_MBps feedback control loop. But on platforms that do not
> + * provide the local event fall back to use the total bandwidth event
> + * instead.
> + */
> +static enum resctrl_event_id pick_mba_mbps_event(void)
> +{
> +	if (is_mbm_local_enabled())
> +		return QOS_L3_MBM_LOCAL_EVENT_ID;
> +
> +	return QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID;
> +}

Can there be a WARN here to catch the unlikely event that
!is_mbm_total_enabled()?
This may mean the caller (in update_mba_bw()) needs to move
to code protected by is_mbm_enabled().

One option to consider is to have a single "get_mba_mbps_state()"
call (similar to V1) that determines the eventid as above and
then calls get_mbm_state() to return a pointer to mbm_state in one
call. Starting to seem like nitpicking but I'd thought I'd mention it
since it seemed a way to have V1 solution with request to use
get_mbm_state() addressed.

> +
>  /*
>   * mbm_bw_count() - Update bw count from values previously read by
>   *		    __mon_event_count().
> @@ -431,9 +445,11 @@ static int __mon_event_count(u32 rmid, struct rmid_read *rr)
>   */
>  static void mbm_bw_count(u32 rmid, struct rmid_read *rr)
>  {
> -	struct mbm_state *m = &rr->d->mbm_local[rmid];
> +	enum resctrl_event_id mba_mbps_evt_id = pick_mba_mbps_event();
>  	u64 cur_bw, bytes, cur_bytes;
> +	struct mbm_state *m;
>  
> +	m = get_mbm_state(rr->d, rmid, mba_mbps_evt_id);
>  	cur_bytes = rr->val;
>  	bytes = cur_bytes - m->prev_bw_bytes;
>  	m->prev_bw_bytes = cur_bytes;

It should not be necessary to pick the event id again. It is available
within the struct rmid_read parameter. 

Reinette

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-03 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-24 18:16 [PATCH] x86/resctrl: mba_MBps: Fall back to total b/w if local b/w unavailable Tony Luck
2023-10-24 18:24 ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-24 23:20 ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-24 23:43   ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-25 16:01     ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-25 12:46 ` Peter Newman
2023-10-25 19:38   ` Tony Luck
2023-10-25 20:39     ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-25 20:42       ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-25 20:52         ` Tony Luck
2023-10-25 23:41           ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26  0:07             ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-25 21:06     ` Peter Newman
2023-10-26 13:55       ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26 16:09         ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-26 17:19           ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26 19:54             ` Tony Luck
2023-10-25 23:50 ` [PATCH v2] " Tony Luck
2023-10-26 20:02   ` [PATCH v3] " Tony Luck
2023-10-26 22:40     ` Moger, Babu
2023-10-26 22:59       ` Luck, Tony
2023-11-03 21:43     ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2023-11-03 21:50       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-07 21:15       ` Tony Luck
2023-11-08 21:49         ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-09 21:27           ` Luck, Tony
2023-11-15 16:09             ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-15 21:54               ` Tony Luck
2023-11-16 19:48                 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-28 23:14     ` [PATCH v4] x86/resctrl: Add mount option to pick total MBM event Tony Luck
2023-11-29 23:48       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-01 20:45         ` Tony Luck
2023-12-01 21:47       ` [PATCH v5] x86/resctrl: Add event choices for mba_MBps Tony Luck
2023-12-04 16:24         ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-04 18:16           ` Tony Luck
2023-12-04 19:04             ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-04 19:45               ` Luck, Tony
2023-12-04 20:03                 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-04 21:08                   ` Tony Luck
2023-12-04 22:15                     ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-04 22:51                       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 19:56         ` [PATCH v6 0/3] x86/resctrl: mba_MBps enhancements Tony Luck
2023-12-07 19:56           ` [PATCH v6 1/3] x86/resctrl: Add mount option "mba_MBps_event" Tony Luck
2023-12-08 18:17             ` Peter Newman
2023-12-08 21:57               ` Tony Luck
2023-12-08 22:09                 ` Peter Newman
2023-12-08 22:37                   ` Luck, Tony
2023-12-12 17:54                   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-12 20:02                     ` Tony Luck
2023-12-12 21:42                       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-13  1:07                         ` Luck, Tony
2023-12-08 18:29             ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 21:50               ` Tony Luck
2023-12-12 18:59             ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 19:56           ` [PATCH v6 2/3] x86/resctrl: Use total bandwidth for mba_MBps option when local isn't present Tony Luck
2023-12-08 18:26             ` Peter Newman
2023-12-07 19:56           ` [PATCH v6 3/3] x86/resctrl: Add new "mba_MBps_event" mount option to documentation Tony Luck
2023-12-08 19:22             ` Peter Newman
2023-12-12 18:59             ` Reinette Chatre

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