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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Document that mutex_unlock() is non-atomic
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 18:56:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <151f2b05-bcb7-4e69-866a-c76286383175@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez1oXW=4MfQ0A6tthud-cvDZUTA+VB=jzu-HxvWzbj+X0g@mail.gmail.com>


On 11/30/23 17:24, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:53 PM Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 11/30/23 15:48, Jann Horn wrote:
>>> I have seen several cases of attempts to use mutex_unlock() to release an
>>> object such that the object can then be freed by another task.
>>> My understanding is that this is not safe because mutex_unlock(), in the
>>> MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS && !MUTEX_FLAG_HANDOFF case, accesses the mutex
>>> structure after having marked it as unlocked; so mutex_unlock() requires
>>> its caller to ensure that the mutex stays alive until mutex_unlock()
>>> returns.
>>>
>>> If MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS is set and there are real waiters, those waiters
>>> have to keep the mutex alive, I think; but we could have a spurious
>>> MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS left if an interruptible/killable waiter bailed
>>> between the points where __mutex_unlock_slowpath() did the cmpxchg
>>> reading the flags and where it acquired the wait_lock.
>> Could you clarify under what condition a concurrent task can decide to
>> free the object holding the mutex? Is it !mutex_is_locked() or after a
>> mutex_lock()/mutex_unlock sequence?
> I mean a mutex_lock()+mutex_unlock() sequence.
Because of optimistic spinning, a mutex_lock()/mutex_unlock() can 
succeed even if there are still waiters waiting for the lock.
>
>> mutex_is_locked() will return true if the mutex has waiter even if it
>> is currently free.
> I don't understand your point, and maybe I also don't understand what
> you mean by "free". Isn't mutex_is_locked() defined such that it only
> looks at whether a mutex has an owner, and doesn't look at the waiter
> list?

What I mean is that the mutex is in an unlocked state ready to be 
acquired by another locker. mutex_is_locked() considers the state of the 
mutex as locked if any of the owner flags is set.

Beside the mutex_lock()/mutex_unlock() sequence, I will suggest adding a 
mutex_is_locked() check just to be sure.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 20:48 [PATCH] locking: Document that mutex_unlock() is non-atomic Jann Horn
2023-11-30 21:53 ` Waiman Long
2023-11-30 22:24   ` Jann Horn
2023-11-30 23:56     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2023-12-01 10:33     ` [PATCH -v2] locking/mutex: " Ingo Molnar
2023-12-02  1:37       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-12-01 10:20   ` [PATCH] locking: " Ingo Molnar
2023-12-01  0:33 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01 15:01   ` Jann Horn
     [not found]     ` <a9e19ad0-9a27-4885-a6ac-bebd3e997b02@redhat.com>
2023-12-01 16:03       ` Jann Horn
2023-12-01 18:12     ` David Laight
2023-12-01 18:18       ` Jann Horn
     [not found]         ` <1bcee696-d751-413c-a2ec-4a8480bae00b@redhat.com>
     [not found]           ` <780e652ff52044d4a213cacbd9276cf8@AcuMS.aculab.com>
2023-12-01 19:15             ` Waiman Long
2023-12-02 15:51               ` David Laight
2023-12-02 22:39                 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01  9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 15:58   ` Jann Horn

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