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From: "Stecklina, Julian" <jsteckli@amazon.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 0/10] KVM: X86: Introducing ROE Protection Kernel Hardening
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 13:36:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1544708187.5826.1.camel@amazon.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181207124803.10828-1-ahmedsoliman@mena.vt.edu>

Ahmed,

On Fri, 2018-12-07 at 14:47 +0200, Ahmed Abd El Mawgood wrote:
> The reason why it would be better to implement this from inside kvm: instead
> of
> (host) user space is the need to access SPTEs to modify the permissions, while
> mprotect() from user space can work in theory. It will become a big
> performance
> hit to vmexit and switch to user space mode on each fault, on the other hand,
> having the permission handled by EPT should make some remarkable performance
> gain.

Given that writes to these areas should be exceptional occurrences, I don't
understand why this path needs to be optimized. To me it seems, a straight-
forward userspace implementation with no additional code in the kernel achieves
the same feature. Can you elaborate?

Julian



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-13 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-07 12:47 [PATCH V7 0/10] KVM: X86: Introducing ROE Protection Kernel Hardening Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] KVM: State whether memory should be freed in kvm_free_memslot Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] KVM: X86: Add arbitrary data pointer in kvm memslot iterator functions Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] KVM: X86: Add helper function to convert SPTE to GFN Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] KVM: Document Memory ROE Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] KVM: Create architecture independent ROE skeleton Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] KVM: X86: Enable ROE for x86 Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:48 ` [PATCH 07/10] KVM: Add support for byte granular memory ROE Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:48 ` [PATCH 08/10] KVM: X86: Port ROE_MPROTECT_CHUNK to x86 Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:48 ` [PATCH 09/10] KVM: Add new exit reason For ROE violations Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 12:48 ` [PATCH 10/10] KVM: Log ROE violations in system log Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-07 16:23 ` RESEND " Ahmed Abd El Mawgood
2018-12-13 13:36 ` Stecklina, Julian [this message]
2018-12-13 16:00   ` [PATCH V7 0/10] KVM: X86: Introducing ROE Protection Kernel Hardening Ahmed Soliman
2018-12-21 14:05     ` Ahmed Soliman

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