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From: Hao Jia <jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mhocko@kernel.org, mkoutny@suse.com, chengming.zhou@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Hao Jia <jiahao1@lixiang.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 11:18:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c25650e-bf98-2863-d505-9b94c385668b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=MCFbsh9ndBtR0-bGRr_=v-6bBwTo=muzd9ZSD-LAK1nQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 2026/6/9 02:01, Nhat Pham wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2026 at 9:48 AM Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>> But OTOH, this does seem like a recipe for inefficient reclaim. We
>>> might exhaust hotter memory of a cgroup while sparing colder memory of
>>> another cgroup... But maybe if they're all cold anyway, then who
>>> cares, and eventually you'll get to the cold stuff of other child?
>>
>> Forgot to respond to this part, the unfairness is limited to the batch
>> size per-invocation, so it should be fine as long as you don't divide
>> the amount over 100 iterations for some reason. Also yes, all memory
>> in zswap is cold, the relative coldness is not that important (e.g.
>> compared to relative coldness during reclaim).
> 
> Ok then yeah, I think we should shelve per-memcg cursor for the next
> version. Down the line, if we have more data that unfairness is an
> issue, we can always fix it. One step at a time :)

Thanks a lot to Yosry, Nhat, and Shakeel for the great suggestions!

Let me summarize what I plan to do in the next version to make sure we 
are on the same page:

  - Drop the per-memcg cursor and keep the root cgroup cursor 
(zswap_next_shrink) logic intact.
  - Stick to using the zswap_writeback_only key, and change the 
proactive writeback size to use the compressed size.
  - Consolidate and reuse the logic between shrink_worker() and 
shrink_memcg(). Enable batch writeback in the shrink_worker() path, 
while keeping the writeback behavior in the zswap_store() path unchanged.

Please let me know if I missed or misunderstood anything. Thanks again 
for clearing things up!

Thanks,
Hao

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-09  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-26 11:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/zswap: Implement per-cgroup proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:51   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30  1:24   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-01 11:07     ` Hao Jia
2026-06-01 16:44       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-01 16:47         ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-01 17:08       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-02 11:32         ` Hao Jia
2026-06-02  0:31       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-02 11:33         ` Hao Jia
2026-06-02 23:19           ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03  3:02             ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:53               ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04  1:58                 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04  5:34                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 13:06                     ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04 16:10                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 17:23                       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-08 12:50                         ` Hao Jia
2026-06-08 16:23                           ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-08 16:44                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 16:48                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 18:01                               ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-09  3:18                                 ` Hao Jia [this message]
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/zswap: Implement proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:58   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30  1:40     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 11:22       ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:58         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:14           ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-04  2:11             ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04  5:36               ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 14:01                 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 18:30                 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 19:50                   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 20:19                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 22:22                       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 22:27                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-09  4:19                           ` YoungJun Park
2026-05-30  1:37   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 11:27     ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:55       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:23       ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:26         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:34           ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:43             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:51               ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:54                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-05-26 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/zswap: Add per-memcg stat for " Hao Jia
2026-05-29 20:01   ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 11:29     ` Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] selftests/cgroup: Add tests for zswap " Hao Jia
2026-05-29 20:02   ` Nhat Pham

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