From: Hao Jia <jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
mhocko@kernel.org, mkoutny@suse.com, chengming.zhou@linux.dev,
muchun.song@linux.dev, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Hao Jia <jiahao1@lixiang.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 11:18:26 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c25650e-bf98-2863-d505-9b94c385668b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=MCFbsh9ndBtR0-bGRr_=v-6bBwTo=muzd9ZSD-LAK1nQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 2026/6/9 02:01, Nhat Pham wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2026 at 9:48 AM Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>> But OTOH, this does seem like a recipe for inefficient reclaim. We
>>> might exhaust hotter memory of a cgroup while sparing colder memory of
>>> another cgroup... But maybe if they're all cold anyway, then who
>>> cares, and eventually you'll get to the cold stuff of other child?
>>
>> Forgot to respond to this part, the unfairness is limited to the batch
>> size per-invocation, so it should be fine as long as you don't divide
>> the amount over 100 iterations for some reason. Also yes, all memory
>> in zswap is cold, the relative coldness is not that important (e.g.
>> compared to relative coldness during reclaim).
>
> Ok then yeah, I think we should shelve per-memcg cursor for the next
> version. Down the line, if we have more data that unfairness is an
> issue, we can always fix it. One step at a time :)
Thanks a lot to Yosry, Nhat, and Shakeel for the great suggestions!
Let me summarize what I plan to do in the next version to make sure we
are on the same page:
- Drop the per-memcg cursor and keep the root cgroup cursor
(zswap_next_shrink) logic intact.
- Stick to using the zswap_writeback_only key, and change the
proactive writeback size to use the compressed size.
- Consolidate and reuse the logic between shrink_worker() and
shrink_memcg(). Enable batch writeback in the shrink_worker() path,
while keeping the writeback behavior in the zswap_store() path unchanged.
Please let me know if I missed or misunderstood anything. Thanks again
for clearing things up!
Thanks,
Hao
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-09 3:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-26 11:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/zswap: Implement per-cgroup proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:51 ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30 1:24 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-01 11:07 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-01 16:44 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-01 16:47 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-01 17:08 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-02 11:32 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-02 0:31 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-02 11:33 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-02 23:19 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 3:02 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:53 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 1:58 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04 5:34 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 13:06 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04 16:10 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 17:23 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-08 12:50 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-08 16:23 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-08 16:44 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 16:48 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 18:01 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-09 3:18 ` Hao Jia [this message]
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/zswap: Implement proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:58 ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30 1:40 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 11:22 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:58 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:14 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-04 2:11 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-04 5:36 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-04 14:01 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 18:30 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 19:50 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 20:19 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-08 22:22 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-08 22:27 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-09 4:19 ` YoungJun Park
2026-05-30 1:37 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 11:27 ` Hao Jia
2026-06-03 17:55 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:23 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:26 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:34 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:43 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-03 18:51 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 18:54 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-05-26 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/zswap: Add per-memcg stat for " Hao Jia
2026-05-29 20:01 ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-03 11:29 ` Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] selftests/cgroup: Add tests for zswap " Hao Jia
2026-05-29 20:02 ` Nhat Pham
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