From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DE9EB64D7 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2023 22:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229530AbjFUWrY (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Jun 2023 18:47:24 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:46744 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229692AbjFUWrX (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Jun 2023 18:47:23 -0400 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9087719AE; Wed, 21 Jun 2023 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCAF5C0140; Wed, 21 Jun 2023 18:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 21 Jun 2023 18:47:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1687387642; x=1687474042; bh=odM0ROmmXZz2l qnANu3LwALHTxJMn1T0y9hAQX6H2Go=; b=Sg9BMqRxJUnOPiv9y19+LPVZVaK/q Z3Og1CSvcCuXsqewxRvOtPZ8alrojCSuBhYKJuHGYw8LUPYQa6Z906BQ/8YrnMju C+Ee1h0RDkyQVLzSOkfGqzYNMMlhdbb1AO4zA0gXt63qJRE7aSYFszAWGlyExDRa AnQrcggVSmg9mzb/REkGtJbEd498p0oPW3AwBpL3isMkf/3tF5Ct9T87eIQwT1dp 7Iyho13g6PLs+ed+zqJ26BXsmOe0+8fEf4h3sgw/oY2zHqQI+EWneDqfRaRGNbXv qtsNfbUqsOELzz6YuXe6QPxGvRq4peEFGAtnciuRALb4lyLKGPHYWz3Iw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrgeegtddguddtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvfevufgjkfhfgggtsehttdertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefhihhnnhcu vfhhrghinhcuoehfthhhrghinheslhhinhhugidqmheikehkrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrg htthgvrhhnpeelueehleehkefgueevtdevteejkefhffekfeffffdtgfejveekgeefvdeu heeuleenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpe hfthhhrghinheslhhinhhugidqmheikehkrdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i58a146ae:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 21 Jun 2023 18:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 08:48:12 +1000 (AEST) From: Finn Thain To: Steven Rostedt cc: Theodore Ts'o , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] Documentation: Linux Contribution Maturity Model and the wider community In-Reply-To: <20230621100845.12588f48@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: <1c3b8e4f-ac8f-1c79-387d-7b68b64ca645@linux-m68k.org> References: <20230620212502.GI286961@mit.edu> <5490402b-8b9f-f52d-3896-41090e639e51@linux-m68k.org> <20230621100845.12588f48@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 21 Jun 2023, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > > > Making the maintainer role more lucrative will provide a > > disincentive for more automation (with or without level 5 > > performance reviews) unless remuneration is tied to metrics that > > reflect maintainer effectiveness. > > I'm not sure I totally understand your point above. I do not think that > making the maintainer role more lucrative provides a disincentive for > more automation. You're right -- it's a moot point (whether paying people more will reward underperformers) since it all depends on the performance metric. I was assuming a metric that reflects my own bias.