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From: "Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: "Oleksij Rempel" <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Donald Hunter" <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Kory Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	"Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, "Michal Kubecek" <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
	"Roan van Dijk" <roan@protonic.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net: phy: dp83td510: add MSE interface support for  10BASE-T1L
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 10:15:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1df-68a2e100-1-20bf1840@149731379> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250815063509.743796-6-o.rempel@pengutronix.de>

Hi Oleksij,

On Friday, August 15, 2025 08:35 CEST, Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:

> Implement get_mse_config() and get_mse_snapshot() for the DP83TD510E
> to expose its Mean Square Error (MSE) register via the new PHY MSE
> UAPI.
> 
> The DP83TD510E does not document any peak MSE values; it only exposes
> a single average MSE register used internally to derive SQI. This
> implementation therefore advertises only PHY_MSE_CAP_AVG, along with
> LINK and channel-A selectors. Scaling is fixed to 0xFFFF, and the
> refresh interval/number of symbols are estimated from 10BASE-T1L
> symbol rate (7.5 MBd) and typical diagnostic intervals (~1 ms).
> 
> For 10BASE-T1L deployments, SQI is a reliable indicator of link
> modulation quality once the link is established, but it does not
> indicate whether autonegotiation pulses will be correctly received
> in marginal conditions. MSE provides a direct measurement of slicer
> error rate that can be used to evaluate if autonegotiation is likely
> to succeed under a given cable length and condition. In practice,
> testing such scenarios often requires forcing a fixed-link setup to
> isolate MSE behaviour from the autonegotiation process.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>

[...]

> +static int dp83td510_get_mse_snapshot(struct phy_device *phydev, u32 channel,
> +				      struct phy_mse_snapshot *snapshot)
> +{
> +	int ret;
> +
> +	if (channel != PHY_MSE_CHANNEL_LINK &&
> +	    channel != PHY_MSE_CHANNEL_A)
> +		return -EOPNOTSUPP;

The doc in patch 1 says :

  > + * Link-wide mode:
  > + *  - Some PHYs only expose a link-wide aggregate MSE, or cannot map their
  > + *    measurement to a specific channel/pair (e.g. 100BASE-TX when MDI/MDI-X
  > + *    resolution is unknown). In that case, callers must use the LINK selector.

The way I understand that is that PHYs will report either channel-specific values or
link-wide values. Is that correct or are both valid ? In BaseT1 this is the same thing,
but maybe for consistency, we should report either channel values or link-wide values ?

Maxime


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-15  6:35 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] ethtool: introduce PHY MSE diagnostics UAPI and drivers Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] ethtool: introduce core UAPI and driver API for PHY MSE diagnostics Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20  3:03   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-20  4:44     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] ethtool: netlink: add ETHTOOL_MSG_MSE_GET and wire up PHY MSE access Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] ethtool: netlink: add lightweight MSE reporting to LINKSTATE_GET Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-19  2:35   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net: phy: micrel: add MSE interface support for KSZ9477 family Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net: phy: dp83td510: add MSE interface support for 10BASE-T1L Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-18  8:15   ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]
2025-08-18  9:20     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20 12:11       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-20 12:26         ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20 13:32           ` Andrew Lunn

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