From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
Cc: Kenneth Lee <liguozhu@hisilicon.com>,
Kenneth Lee <nek.in.cn@gmail.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Sanjay Kumar <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
Hao Fang <fanghao11@huawei.com>,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linuxarm@huawei.com, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-accelerators@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 14:04:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180907180412.GC3519@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <404f0944-d514-b450-f743-89ae798ac694@arm.com>
On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 06:55:45PM +0100, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 17:53, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > So there is no reasons to do that under VFIO. Especialy as in your example
> > it is not a real user space device driver, the userspace portion only knows
> > about writting command into command buffer AFAICT.
> >
> > VFIO is for real userspace driver where interrupt, configurations, ... ie
> > all the driver is handled in userspace. This means that the userspace have
> > to be trusted as it could program the device to do DMA to anywhere (if
> > IOMMU is disabled at boot which is still the default configuration in the
> > kernel).
>
> If the IOMMU is disabled (not exactly a kernel default by the way, I
> think most IOMMU drivers enable it by default), your userspace driver
> can't bypass DMA isolation by accident. It just won't be allowed to
> access the device. VFIO requires an IOMMU unless the admin forces the
> NOIOMMU mode with the "enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode" module parameter, and
> the userspace explicitly asks for it with VFIO_NOIOMMU_IOMMU, which
> taints the kernel. Not for production. A normal userspace driver that
> uses VFIO can only do DMA to its own memory.
>
Didn't know about VFIO check, which is a sane thing. On Intel IOMMU
is disabled by default (see INTEL_IOMMU_DEFAULT_ON Kconfig option).
I am pretty sure it use to be the same for AMD but maybe it is now
enabled by default.
Cheers,
Jérôme
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-07 18:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-03 0:51 [RFCv2 PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] vfio/sdmdev: Add documents for WarpDrive framework Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06 18:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-07 2:21 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] iommu: Add share domain interface in iommu for sdmdev Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 0:52 ` [PATCH 3/7] vfio: add sdmdev support Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 2:11 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-06 8:08 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 2:55 ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-06 9:01 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-04 15:31 ` [RFC PATCH] vfio: vfio_sdmdev_groups[] can be static kbuild test robot
2018-09-04 15:32 ` [PATCH 3/7] vfio: add sdmdev support kbuild test robot
2018-09-04 15:32 ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-05 7:27 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-03 0:52 ` [PATCH 4/7] crypto: add hisilicon Queue Manager driver Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 2:15 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-06 9:08 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 0:52 ` [PATCH 5/7] crypto: Add Hisilicon Zip driver Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 0:52 ` [PATCH 6/7] crypto: add sdmdev support to Hisilicon QM Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 2:19 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-06 9:09 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 0:52 ` [PATCH 7/7] vfio/sdmdev: add user sample Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 2:25 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-06 9:10 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03 2:32 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive Lu Baolu
2018-09-06 9:11 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-04 15:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-04 16:15 ` Alex Williamson
2018-09-06 9:45 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06 13:31 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-07 4:01 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-07 16:53 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-07 17:55 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07 18:04 ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2018-09-10 3:28 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-10 14:54 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-11 2:42 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-11 3:33 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-11 6:40 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-11 13:40 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-13 8:32 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-13 14:51 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-14 3:12 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-14 14:05 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-14 6:50 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-14 13:05 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-14 14:13 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-17 1:42 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-17 8:39 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-17 12:37 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-18 6:00 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-18 13:03 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-20 5:55 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-20 14:23 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-21 10:05 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-21 10:03 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-21 14:52 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-25 5:55 ` Kenneth Lee
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