From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on archive.lwn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by archive.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E1D7D089 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 11:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726238AbeLCLF5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 06:05:57 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:50082 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725883AbeLCLF5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 06:05:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [62.119.166.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BBF420851; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 11:05:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1543835123; bh=9ETUFM2GTS+wchab/GI6GIOzbFg4pqYf10keKf0Pk54=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Hm9+7H1oHkraXdtjuEJqLQrA9aj0g5qnLKaaoj/QgJDyfw01nCeANEFQZJzxMALVa DqjQkDGbUYAcBE0gviLYsOm1f63+g/ISXrNtp3JSOOTNEn0qiqG0+m3535KTWbpPRN OACNZAqsE6KDz0b9d93Ju692d3r2Jcy5RvvRWSmI= Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 12:05:06 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Frank Rowand , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Tomi Valkeinen , Bart Van Assche , Pavel Machek , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors Message-ID: <20181203110506.GA7485@kroah.com> References: <20181202093257.3918-1-geert@linux-m68k.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181202093257.3918-1-geert@linux-m68k.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.0 (2018-11-25) Sender: linux-doc-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 10:32:57AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Providing an explicit list of discrimination factors may give the false > impression that discrimination based on other unlisted factors would be > allowed. > > Furthermore, this list is already overly long, polarizing, > politically-laden, and reinstating the concept of human races. > None of these is related to the goals of the Linux kernel project. > > Avoid any ambiguity or political undertone by removing the list, to > ensure "a harassment-free experience for everyone", period. I understand the reason you and others are proposing this change, however for now, let us stick with the text that we have. As Linus and I said just over a month ago, let's sit with the text we have until something comes up that requires a change to happen. Also, I recommend you work with the upstream developers of this text to see if they agree with your changes here. If they do, and update their version, I will be glad to revisit this text at that time. But everyone, please note that there are very specific reasons for listing things like this. You might not agree with those reasons, but many other people do so each "camp" can not be happy in the end. As we did have 3 years without such a list of factors, perhaps it is time to have 3 years with the list to provide a fair balance. :) So I'm not going to accept this patch at this point in time, sorry. thanks, greg k-h