From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on archive.lwn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by archive.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B7A7D089 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725916AbeLCOS1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 09:18:27 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:51616 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725914AbeLCOS0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 09:18:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [95.98.134.160]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B59362082F; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:17:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1543846635; bh=fnTrF07Y1OKw3PyZdPmvNfDeuS93uBlVhRjKBHZw0is=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=zTuDg2Jr6V41UwpGf8XYPFUrIrwadA0KGLt0LaLo7CusruyacHNIIBretZEW2XR9J YSGi+uZswTXQd83Ddoh9LtmIajofMmGy9Ph6V1BVpHg3xrO1u/YIbU+9Fr0twB6Ecu Fhh8S2GQ64FHfIdtiCZCyyZUmk8FCcdFlU3EJX18= Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:17:11 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Frank Rowand , acme@kernel.org, Tomi Valkeinen , Bart Van Assche , Pavel Machek , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors Message-ID: <20181203141711.GA19551@kroah.com> References: <20181202093257.3918-1-geert@linux-m68k.org> <20181203110506.GA7485@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.0 (2018-11-25) Sender: linux-doc-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 12:53:00PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Greg, > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:05 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman > wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 10:32:57AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > Providing an explicit list of discrimination factors may give the false > > > impression that discrimination based on other unlisted factors would be > > > allowed. > > > > > > Furthermore, this list is already overly long, polarizing, > > > politically-laden, and reinstating the concept of human races. > > > None of these is related to the goals of the Linux kernel project. > > > > > > Avoid any ambiguity or political undertone by removing the list, to > > > ensure "a harassment-free experience for everyone", period. > > > > I understand the reason you and others are proposing this change, > > however for now, let us stick with the text that we have. As Linus and > > I said just over a month ago, let's sit with the text we have until > > something comes up that requires a change to happen. > > > > Also, I recommend you work with the upstream developers of this text to > > see if they agree with your changes here. If they do, and update their > > version, I will be glad to revisit this text at that time. > > I did, cfr. https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/issues/610 > > The official response was: > > "I'm not going to make this change to the Contributor Covenant itself, > since I believe that explicitly listing examples of protected classes is > important. However, any adopting project is free to modify the document > according to the license." I figured. As I said, some people feel that the list is good to have, if not essential. So let's stick with it for now. thanks, greg k-h