From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on archive.lwn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by archive.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A789E7D04D for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 08:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728843AbfAUIhN (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2019 03:37:13 -0500 Received: from new3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.229]:53625 "EHLO new3-smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728554AbfAUIhN (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2019 03:37:13 -0500 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailnew.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE25FEBCB; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 03:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 21 Jan 2019 03:37:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kroah.com; h= date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm2; bh=UsUDKS0VLOaPJ1WqKup0wCUAmbF 1fVqOmxzArmFQsdc=; b=j+9z3S7NQ8UUcW1qEZPXoCzu1R36ww7Nb6cyEnp+Lod WsA1oKerh4W0pdOqMmnboNvF+VSzquZXCh0/lahsQfR+TcRphGMad8tmCKQxAMbK uJDEjDG4qjJ9txXQgOwRKpslaR5HHIaJ/EHfIHQDTL+XnczA2XvXyztDremXhcv3 bc4TE6kmwsQrLftHx45Y2dc2dBUedVC/43hI78STb2UOriJqV8eqbCkvk0udbx0Q e1110G4UNw++fatxYSED7isCK+G58zzz2gNxoch7oUpjebRQK2pf8DYyYK6n0ZTG VCBmRPAhFIgbTBpfOascOxKKSDB2JSFORHcuW3I3/mA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=UsUDKS 0VLOaPJ1WqKup0wCUAmbF1fVqOmxzArmFQsdc=; b=aev3SLg830YkWVPa75/Kf1 tW36RE32UdH8+gr+FzrOw/dCU3uE9AtKiR6sXBRdbnBhYingeOwz6GNoILwPFEk5 HwYCioJdPhplZziYWbO2Sn8SZqvJanrYrwkd6B6c9KKegmKrNtRnuLU53E+P7nmr G+8ZtY9BvWd/JmxGgSJgKGCVg3d3AY9J8R5QZwC+zyRkFrJ4G1vs/ZaZ4oNFxGaW ZS5eFKNkk81NWqvHqdlwZssUFxaYlOPPBOKEUqECWWekeErpz87BD/Cl7UYfJpYU gq5mGWg1B6oGHHaBjpUVjAZP20ofUtU8FBXKF63QVGMRn1CkN91JcdfK4IqoXNWw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledrheehgdduvdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfquhhtnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucef tddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenogfuphgrmhfkphculdeftd dtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujggfsehttdertddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpefi rhgvghcumffjuceoghhrvghgsehkrhhorghhrdgtohhmqeenucfkphepkeefrdekiedrke elrddutdejnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehgrhgvgheskhhrohgrhhdrtgho mhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (5356596b.cm-6-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [83.86.89.107]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4E9D6E4667; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 03:37:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 09:37:08 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Federico Vaga Cc: Jonathan Corbet , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc:process: remove note from 'stable api nonsense' Message-ID: <20190121083708.GA6462@kroah.com> References: <20190118215804.3340-1-federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it> <20190120184338.01cd4ef9@lwn.net> <53383524.y9DmdCAcNX@pcbe13614> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53383524.y9DmdCAcNX@pcbe13614> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.2 (2019-01-07) Sender: linux-doc-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 09:14:00AM +0100, Federico Vaga wrote: > On Monday, January 21, 2019 2:43:38 AM CET Jonathan Corbet wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 22:58:04 +0100 > > > > Federico Vaga wrote: > > > The link referred by the note can't be retrieved: this patch just > > > remove that old note. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Federico Vaga > > > --- > > > > > > Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst | 3 +-- > > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-) > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst > > > b/Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst index > > > 24f5aeecee91..57d95a49c096 100644 > > > --- a/Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst > > > +++ b/Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst > > > @@ -171,8 +171,7 @@ is also a rough job. > > > > > > Simple, get your kernel driver into the main kernel tree (remember we > > > are talking about GPL released drivers here, if your code doesn't fall > > > > > > -under this category, good luck, you are on your own here, you leech > > > -.) If your > > > +under this category, good luck, you are on your own here, you leech). If > > > your> > > > driver is in the tree, and a kernel interface changes, it will be fixed > > > up by the person who did the kernel change in the first place. This > > > ensures that your driver is always buildable, and works over time, with > > > > I've applied this. I do wonder if the "you leech" should maybe come out > > too, though. I don't think that parasitic worms are a protected class > > under the CoC, but they might still suffer emotionally from being > > compared to the purveyors of proprietary modules... > > I agree, do you want me to change the patch? I would leave it as-is for now please. When this was written, there was a lot of discussion about closed source modules, and how the companies that created them were leeches on our development community. No one disagreed with that statement, and a number of companies privately agreed with us. That still has not changed. So I would like to see this remain. thanks, greg k-h