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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/57] docs: device-mapper: convert it to ReST format
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:48:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190416154858.GB22497@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190416080024.7fb65682@lwn.net>

On Tue, Apr 16 2019 at 10:00am -0400,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:28:52 -0400
> Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Can you help me understand why this is the direction text based
> > Documenation is taking in the Linux kernel?  All I see is markup, and
> > escaping of characters, that is a chore to administer over time.
> 
> This is a discussion that was mostly resolved some years ago...
> 
> Classic Documentation/ is a jumbled collection of unorganized text files,
> some of which contain highly useful information and others of which
> haven't had much to offer since about 1996.  We are working to turn it
> into an organized collection where, hopefully, some thought has actually
> been given to the people who will be reading it.
> 
> The ReST conversion, in particular, allows us to link documents into a
> larger structure, create indexes and cross references, and produce output
> in formats like HTML and PDF.  It lets us present the documentation like
> this:
> 
> 	https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/
> 
> Among other things, making the documentation more accessible in this way
> makes it easier and more rewarding for developers to improve it, and I
> believe we are seeing the results of that.  Linus called out the
> documentation work in the 5.1-rc1 announcement, for example.
> 
> Nobody has complained about the maintenance burden of RST docs - so far as
> I have heard, anyway.  Things do break occasionally, but problems in the
> docs build almost always result from code changes that mess up the
> kerneldoc comments rather than RST changes, and it's been that way for as
> long as I've been paying attention.

Thanks for the context.  I clearly just haven't followed the evolution.
Certainly looks like a solid improvement.

Think the last piece I'm missing is: how does one edit a .rst document
without having to know to sprinkle syntactic sugar around?  Does emacs
have a ReST mode?  If not what client interface are people using to
properly change these documents?

(apologies if this is all spelled out nicely in Documentation/
somewhere, but please help this man learn to fish).

Thanks,
Mike

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-16 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-16  2:55 [PATCH 00/57] Convert files to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 01/57] docs: trace: fix some Sphinx warnings Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 02/57] docs: acpi: convert text files to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  8:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-16  9:54     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16 10:17       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-16 14:55     ` Changbin Du
2019-04-22 13:31       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 03/57] docs: aoe: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 04/57] docs: arm64: convert documentation to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 06/57] docs: cdrom: convert remaining files to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 08/57] docs: cgroup-v1/blkio-controller.rst: add a note about CFQ scheduler Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 09/57] docs: cpu-freq: convert files to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  8:21   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-16  9:58     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 11/57] docs: extcon: move it to acpi dir and convert it " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 12/57] docs: fault-injection: convert it to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 14/57] docs: fpga: convert it to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 15/57] docs: gpio: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-23 10:52   ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-23 12:38     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 16/57] docs: ide: convert it to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 17/57] docs: infiniband: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 19/57] docs: kdump: convert it to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 20/57] docs: livepatch: convert it to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  8:43   ` Petr Mladek
2019-04-16 11:47     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 21/57] docs: locking: convert docs " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 22/57] docs: mic: convert it " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 23/57] docs: netlabel: convert it to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-17 14:36   ` Paul Moore
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 24/57] docs: pcmcia: convert it to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  4:58   ` Dominik Brodowski
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 26/57] docs: powerpc: convert docs to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 27/57] docs: pps/pps.txt convert it to ReST and move to API book Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 28/57] docs: ptp.txt: convert to ReST and move to driver-api Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 29/57] docs: riscv: convert it to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 30/57] docs: s390: Debugging390.txt: convert table to ascii artwork Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 32/57] s390: include/asm/debug.h add kerneldoc markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 33/57] docs: serial: convert it to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:55 ` [PATCH 34/57] docs: target: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 35/57] docs: timers: convert documentation to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 37/57] docs: watchdog: convert documents to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-17 17:53   ` Guenter Roeck
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 39/57] docs: xilinx: convert eemi.txt to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 40/57] docs: scheduler: convert files " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 41/57] docs: EDID/HOWTO.txt: convert to ReST and move to kernel-API Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 42/57] docs: connector.txt: convert to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 43/57] docs: lcd-panel-cgram.txt convert it to ReST and move to admin-guide Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 44/57] docs: lp855x-driver.txt: convert to ReST and move to kernel-api Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 45/57] docs: m68k: convert it to ReST file format and add to arch bookset Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 46/57] docs: cma/debugfs.txt: convert to ReST and move to admin-guide/mm Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  5:21   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-04-16 11:35     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 47/57] docs: console.txt: convert to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 48/57] docs: pti_intel_mid.txt: convert to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 49/57] docs: early-userspace: convert docs " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 50/57] docs: driver-model: convert it to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 52/57] docs: memory-devices: convert ti-emif.txt " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 53/57] docs: xen-tpmfront.txt: convert the file " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 54/57] docs: bus-devices: ti-gpmc.txt: convert it to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 55/57] docs: nvmem: convert file to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 56/57] docs: phy: convert samsung-usb2.txt " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16  2:56 ` [PATCH 57/57] docs: Prepare files to be renamed to *.rst Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found] ` <eaafc5741ccfe3b96ab2a9ef799c537c49ab20e5.1555382110.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
2019-04-16  6:12   ` [PATCH 36/57] docs: usb: convert documents to ReST Felipe Balbi
2019-04-16 11:43     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found] ` <cfab8842b681a84518b327980b08aee95d159605.1555382110.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
2019-04-16  7:20   ` [PATCH 25/57] docs: power: convert docs " Pavel Machek
2019-04-16  8:59   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-16 10:41     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16 10:47       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <9dd3c4eca01489bd67ea6de88dfedef8b0e81901.1555382110.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
2019-04-16 13:28   ` [PATCH 10/57] docs: device-mapper: convert it to ReST format Mike Snitzer
2019-04-16 14:00     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-04-16 14:33       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-16 15:48       ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2019-04-16 17:27         ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-04-16 18:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found] ` <5cfeb21a8841c1e029e8396bdaa7cd55ac0b08a2.1555382110.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
2019-04-18  9:25   ` [PATCH 18/57] docs: kbuild: convert it to ReST output Masahiro Yamada
2019-04-18 10:26     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-18 12:42 ` Avoiding merge conflicts while adding new docs - Was: Re: [PATCH 00/57] Convert files to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-19 22:10   ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found] ` <CGME20190416025636epcas4p2b3bd395b2673bffb3cc0cbdd211aa841@epcas4p2.samsung.com>
     [not found]   ` <f282cbd57dcee9d598c13d8b1e4ea4cc1459b8ad.1555382110.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
2019-05-06 13:36     ` [PATCH 13/57] docs: fb: convert documentation to ReST format Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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