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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 25/26] docs: rcu: convert some articles from html to ReST
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:02:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190726180201.GE146401@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8444797277eea7be474f40625bb190775a9cee33.1564145354.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 09:51:35AM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
[snip]
> +| until the assignment to ``gp``, by which time both fields are fully   |
> +| initialized. So reordering the assignments to ``p->a`` and ``p->b``   |
> +| cannot possibly cause any problems.                                   |
> ++-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> +
> +It is tempting to assume that the reader need not do anything special to
> +control its accesses to the RCU-protected data, as shown in
> +``do_something_gp_buggy()`` below:
> +
> +   ::
> +
> +       1 bool do_something_gp_buggy(void)
> +       2 {
> +       3   rcu_read_lock();
> +       4   p = gp;  /* OPTIMIZATIONS GALORE!!! */
> +       5   if (p) {
> +       6     do_something(p->a, p->b);
> +       7     rcu_read_unlock();
> +       8     return true;
> +       9   }
> +      10   rcu_read_unlock();
> +      11   return false;
> +      12 }
> +
> +However, this temptation must be resisted because there are a
> +surprisingly large number of ways that the compiler (to say nothing of
> +`DEC Alpha CPUs <https://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_2637.html>`__)
> +can trip this code up. For but one example, if the compiler were short
> +of registers, it might choose to refetch from ``gp`` rather than keeping
> +a separate copy in ``p`` as follows:
> +
> +   ::
> +
> +       1 bool do_something_gp_buggy_optimized(void)
> +       2 {
> +       3   rcu_read_lock();
> +       4   if (gp) { /* OPTIMIZATIONS GALORE!!! */
> +       5     do_something(gp->a, gp->b);
> +       6     rcu_read_unlock();
> +       7     return true;
> +       8   }
> +       9   rcu_read_unlock();
> +      10   return false;
> +      11 }
> +
> +If this function ran concurrently with a series of updates that replaced
> +the current structure with a new one, the fetches of ``gp->a`` and
> +``gp->b`` might well come from two different structures, which could
> +cause serious confusion. To prevent this (and much else besides),
> +``do_something_gp()`` uses ``rcu_dereference()`` to fetch from ``gp``:
> +
> +   ::
> +
> +       1 bool do_something_gp(void)
> +       2 {
> +       3   rcu_read_lock();
> +       4   p = rcu_dereference(gp);
> +       5   if (p) {
> +       6     do_something(p->a, p->b);
> +       7     rcu_read_unlock();
> +       8     return true;
> +       9   }
> +      10   rcu_read_unlock();
> +      11   return false;
> +      12 }
> +
> +The ``rcu_dereference()`` uses volatile casts and (for DEC Alpha) memory
> +barriers in the Linux kernel. Should a `high-quality implementation of
> +C11 ``memory_order_consume``
> +[PDF] <http://www.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/RCU/consume.2015.07.13a.pdf>`__
> +ever appear, then ``rcu_dereference()`` could be implemented as a
> +``memory_order_consume`` load. Regardless of the exact implementation, a
> +pointer fetched by ``rcu_dereference()`` may not be used outside of the
> +outermost RCU read-side critical section containing that
> +``rcu_dereference()``, unless protection of the corresponding data
> +element has been passed from RCU to some other synchronization
> +mechanism, most commonly locking or `reference
> +counting <https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/RCU/rcuref.txt>`__.

From the make htmldocs output, this appears very poorly for me, I get
something like this in the browser:

The rcu_dereference() uses volatile casts and (for DEC Alpha) memory barriers
in the Linux kernel. Should a high-quality implementation of C11
``memory_order_consume` [PDF]
<http://www.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/RCU/consume.2015.07.13a.pdf>`__ ever
appear, then rcu_dereference() could be implemented as a memory_order_consume
load.

Is there a syntax issue here?

One more feedback,
the image under "RCU read-side critical section that started before the current
grace period:" should probably be blown up a bit.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-26 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-26 12:51 [PATCH v2 00/26] ReST conversion of text files without .txt extension Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 01/26] docs: power: add it to to the main documentation index Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-31 19:03   ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-07-31 19:16     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-31 19:34       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-07-31 19:58         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-31 20:02           ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 02/26] docs: thermal: add it to the driver API Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 03/26] docs: powerpc: convert docs to ReST and rename to *.rst Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 04/26] docs: ubifs-authentication.md: convert to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 05/26] docs: writing-schema.md: convert from markdown " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 07/26] docs: w1: convert to ReST and add to the kAPI group of docs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 08/26] spi: docs: convert to ReST and add it to the kABI bookset Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 09/26] docs: ipmb: place it at driver-api and convert to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 10/26] docs: packing: move it to core-api book and adjust markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 11/26] docs: admin-guide: add auxdisplay files to it after conversion to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 12/26] docs: README.buddha: convert to ReST and add to m68k book Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 13/26] docs: parisc: convert to ReST and add to documentation body Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 14/26] docs: openrisc: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 15/26] docs: isdn: convert to ReST and add to kAPI bookset Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 16/26] docs: fs: cifs: convert to ReST and add to admin-guide book Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 17/26] docs: fs: convert docs without extension to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 18/26] docs: fs: convert porting " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 19/26] docs: index.rst: don't use genindex for pdf output Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 20/26] docs: wimax: convert to ReST and add to admin-guide Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 21/26] docs: mips: add to the documentation body as ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 22/26] docs: hwmon: pxe1610: convert to ReST format and add to the index Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 23/26] docs: nios2: add it to the main Documentation body Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 12:51 ` [PATCH v2 24/26] docs: net: convert two README files to ReST format Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] ReST conversion of text files without .txt extension Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found] ` <8444797277eea7be474f40625bb190775a9cee33.1564145354.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <20190726162002.GA146401@google.com>
     [not found]     ` <20190726140028.38abb5fa@coco.lan>
2019-07-26 17:55       ` [PATCH v2 25/26] docs: rcu: convert some articles from html to ReST Joel Fernandes
2019-07-26 18:45         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-26 18:02   ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2019-07-26 19:01     ` [PATCH] tools: memory-model: add it to the Documentation body Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-27 14:14       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-07-27 15:37         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-30 22:17           ` Joel Fernandes
2019-07-30 22:57             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-31 13:52               ` Alan Stern
2019-07-31 15:19                 ` Akira Yokosawa
2019-07-31 20:25                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-30 11:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-01 13:35                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-26 19:14     ` [PATCH v2 25/26] docs: rcu: convert some articles from html to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-30 22:06       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-07-30 21:22   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-30 21:50     ` Joel Fernandes
2019-07-30 22:00       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-30 22:21         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-07-30 23:00           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-30 23:15             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-07-30 21:50     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-30 23:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-31  0:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-31  0:47           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-07-31  1:06             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-31  1:33               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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