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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4.19 72/98] x86/CPU/AMD: Clear RDRAND CPUID bit on AMD family 15h/16h
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 13:49:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190828114947.GC8052@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1908281231480.1869@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

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Hi!

> > > There is no way to reinitialize RDRAND from the kernel otherwise we would
> > > have exactly done that. If you know how to do that please tell.
> > 
> > Would they? AMD is not exactly doing good job with communication
> 
> Yes they would. Stop making up weird conspiracy theories.

> > here. If BIOS can do it, kernel can do it, too...
> 
> May I recommend to read up on SMM and BIOS being able to lock down access
> to certain facilities?
> 
> > or do you have information saying otherwise?
> 
> Yes. It was clearly stated by Tom that it can only be done in the
> BIOS.

Do you have a link for that? Because I don't think I seen that one.

> > > Also disabling it for every BIOS is the only way which can be done because
> > > there is no way to know whether the BIOS is fixed or not at cold boot
> > > time. And it has to be known there because applications cache the
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure DMI-based whitelist would help here. It should be
> > reasonably to fill it with the common machines at least.
> 
> Send patches to that effect.

Why should it be my job? AMD screwed this up, they should fix it
properly. And you should insist on proper fix.

> > Plus, where is the CVE, and does AMD do anything to make BIOS vendors
> > fix them?
> 
> May I redirect you to: https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/contact

That will certainly make communication easier, right.

								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-28 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190827072718.142728620@linuxfoundation.org>
2019-08-27  7:50 ` [PATCH 4.19 72/98] x86/CPU/AMD: Clear RDRAND CPUID bit on AMD family 15h/16h Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-27 11:36   ` Pavel Machek
2019-08-27 13:30     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-28 10:31       ` Pavel Machek
2019-08-28 10:47         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-28 11:49           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2019-08-28 12:00             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-28 12:09               ` Pavel Machek
2019-08-28 12:16                 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-28 12:29                   ` Pavel Machek
2019-08-28 12:46                     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-28 13:37                       ` Pavel Machek
2019-08-28 14:15                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-28 22:05                           ` Pavel Machek

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