From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@darmarit.de>
Cc: "Bird, Tim" <Tim.Bird@sony.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"tbird20d@gmail.com" <tbird20d@gmail.com>,
"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scripts/sphinx-pre-install: add '-p python3' to virtualenv
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 22:34:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200305223416.6a0fdedc@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c491adf3-ae49-fefc-ea6d-32b75f4f9ca9@darmarit.de>
Em Wed, 4 Mar 2020 10:20:34 +0100
Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@darmarit.de> escreveu:
>
> Am 04.03.20 um 09:31 schrieb Mauro Carvalho Chehab:
> > Em Wed, 4 Mar 2020 07:20:48 +0100
> > Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@darmarit.de> escreveu:
> >> With py3 the recommended way to install virtual environments is::
> >>
> >> python3 -m venv sphinx-env
> >>
> >> This (python3) is what worked for me on RHEL/CentOS (dnf),
> >> archlinux and debian/ubuntu (tested from 16.04 up to 20.04).
> >
> > Hmm... from:
> >
> > https://packaging.python.org/guides/installing-using-pip-and-virtual-environments/
> >
> > This works since Python version 3.3. It sounds doable to use it.
> >
> > Yet, if we'll be switching to this method, the script should check if
> > the version is 3.3 or newer. The logic inside get_sphinx_fname() would
> > also require some changes, as it won't need to install anymore the
> > virtualenv program for Python >= 3.3.
>
> I guess you can ignore 3.2 and downwards
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Python#Table_of_versions
>
> Support for py2.7 and >=py3.3 should match nearly all use cases / distributions
> we support.
>
> BTW: starting scripts with:
>
> -m <module-name>
> Searches sys.path for the named module and runs the
> corresponding .py file as a script.
>
> is mostly more robust. The option exists also in py2. From py3.3 on
> a subset of virtualenv is built-in, so you can run '-m venv' ot of the
> box.
I did some tests... as everything with python, it is not so simple...
The thing is that "-mvenv" requires a python module called "ensurepip".
On Fedora, openSuse and archlinux, this is installed together with
python3, but Debian maintainers had a different idea about how to package it.
There, ensurepip is inside a python3-venv-3.x (where x is 5, 6 or 7 -
depending on the Ubuntu/Debian version, and if backports repository is
been used or not).
There is a package python3-venv too, with installs the right package,
together with some unneeded stuff (pyvenv, with is a deprecated script).
Yet, installing python3-venv seems to be a reliable way to install
the proper package without having to deal with more fragile heuristics.
I'm working on some patches that should hopefully add support for
using "python3 -mvenv", but testing it is not trivial, as I want
to ensure that it won't cause troubles on other distros. So, I'm
installing a myriad of distros with lxc, in order to test how the
script will actually work with some different environments.
Thanks,
Mauro
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-05 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-25 1:34 [PATCH] scripts/sphinx-pre-install: add '-p python3' to virtualenv tbird20d
2020-03-02 20:09 ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-03-03 17:07 ` Bird, Tim
2020-03-03 20:01 ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-03-04 17:25 ` Bird, Tim
2020-03-04 19:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-03-04 5:42 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-03-04 6:20 ` Markus Heiser
2020-03-04 8:31 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-03-04 9:20 ` Markus Heiser
2020-03-05 21:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
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