* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred
2020-07-09 18:11 [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred Kees Cook
@ 2020-07-09 20:42 ` Will Deacon
2020-07-09 22:17 ` Kees Cook
` (2 more replies)
2020-07-09 22:50 ` Jiri Kosina
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5 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Will Deacon @ 2020-07-09 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook
Cc: Jonathan Corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman, security, linux-doc,
linux-kernel
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst | 9 ++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> index dcd6c93c7aac..c32eb786201c 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> @@ -21,11 +21,18 @@ understand and fix the security vulnerability.
>
> As it is with any bug, the more information provided the easier it
> will be to diagnose and fix. Please review the procedure outlined in
> -admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst if you are unclear about what
> +:doc:`reporting-bugs` if you are unclear about what
> information is helpful. Any exploit code is very helpful and will not
> be released without consent from the reporter unless it has already been
> made public.
>
> +Please send plain text emails without attachments where possible.
> +It is much harder to have a context-quoted discussion about a complex
> +issue if all the details are hidden away in attachments. Think of it like a
> +:doc:`regular patch submission <../process/submitting-patches>`
> +(even if you don't have a patch yet): describe the problem and impact, list
> +reproduction steps, and follow it with a proposed fix, all in plain text.
> +
Acked-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Hopefully "plain text" implies unencrypted as much as it does "not html".
Will
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2020-07-09 20:42 ` Will Deacon
@ 2020-07-09 22:17 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-10 3:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-10 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2020-07-09 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Will Deacon
Cc: Jonathan Corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman, security, linux-doc,
linux-kernel
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 09:42:56PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> > attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> > security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> > ---
> > Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst | 9 ++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> > index dcd6c93c7aac..c32eb786201c 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> > @@ -21,11 +21,18 @@ understand and fix the security vulnerability.
> >
> > As it is with any bug, the more information provided the easier it
> > will be to diagnose and fix. Please review the procedure outlined in
> > -admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst if you are unclear about what
> > +:doc:`reporting-bugs` if you are unclear about what
> > information is helpful. Any exploit code is very helpful and will not
> > be released without consent from the reporter unless it has already been
> > made public.
> >
> > +Please send plain text emails without attachments where possible.
> > +It is much harder to have a context-quoted discussion about a complex
> > +issue if all the details are hidden away in attachments. Think of it like a
> > +:doc:`regular patch submission <../process/submitting-patches>`
> > +(even if you don't have a patch yet): describe the problem and impact, list
> > +reproduction steps, and follow it with a proposed fix, all in plain text.
> > +
>
> Acked-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Thanks!
>
> Hopefully "plain text" implies unencrypted as much as it does "not html".
I decided not to write a paragraph about how security@ isn't a
role-account with a separate GPG key etc etc. Those cases are rare
enough that I don't think it (yet) warrants a paragraph here. I want to
strike a balance between "all your questions are answered" and "there's
too much here for me to find the answer to my question". :)
--
Kees Cook
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred
2020-07-09 20:42 ` Will Deacon
2020-07-09 22:17 ` Kees Cook
@ 2020-07-10 3:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-10 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Willy Tarreau @ 2020-07-10 3:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Will Deacon
Cc: Kees Cook, Jonathan Corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman, security,
linux-doc, linux-kernel
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 09:42:56PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Acked-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>
> Hopefully "plain text" implies unencrypted as much as it does "not html".
I would have liked "(i.e. not html)" to be added after "plain text", but
I figured that those who do that often don't even know what this means
so that will probably not help them avoid their messages being stored
into a spambox :-/
Acked-by: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Willy
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred
2020-07-09 20:42 ` Will Deacon
2020-07-09 22:17 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-10 3:45 ` Willy Tarreau
@ 2020-07-10 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2020-07-10 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Will Deacon
Cc: Kees Cook, Jonathan Corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman, security,
linux-doc, linux-kernel
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 09:42:56PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> > attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> > security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> > ---
> > Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst | 9 ++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> > index dcd6c93c7aac..c32eb786201c 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> > @@ -21,11 +21,18 @@ understand and fix the security vulnerability.
> >
> > As it is with any bug, the more information provided the easier it
> > will be to diagnose and fix. Please review the procedure outlined in
> > -admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst if you are unclear about what
> > +:doc:`reporting-bugs` if you are unclear about what
> > information is helpful. Any exploit code is very helpful and will not
> > be released without consent from the reporter unless it has already been
> > made public.
> >
> > +Please send plain text emails without attachments where possible.
> > +It is much harder to have a context-quoted discussion about a complex
> > +issue if all the details are hidden away in attachments. Think of it like a
> > +:doc:`regular patch submission <../process/submitting-patches>`
> > +(even if you don't have a patch yet): describe the problem and impact, list
> > +reproduction steps, and follow it with a proposed fix, all in plain text.
> > +
>
> Acked-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>
> Hopefully "plain text" implies unencrypted as much as it does "not html".
Or that RST crap :-(
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred
2020-07-09 18:11 [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred Kees Cook
2020-07-09 20:42 ` Will Deacon
@ 2020-07-09 22:50 ` Jiri Kosina
2020-07-09 23:03 ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
` (3 subsequent siblings)
5 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jiri Kosina @ 2020-07-09 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook
Cc: Jonathan Corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman, security, linux-doc,
linux-kernel
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020, Kees Cook wrote:
> The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Acked-by: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Thanks,
--
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs
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2020-07-09 18:11 [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred Kees Cook
2020-07-09 20:42 ` Will Deacon
2020-07-09 22:50 ` Jiri Kosina
@ 2020-07-09 23:03 ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-07-10 6:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
` (2 subsequent siblings)
5 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Gustavo A. R. Silva @ 2020-07-09 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook, Jonathan Corbet
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman, security, linux-doc, linux-kernel
On 7/9/20 13:11, Kees Cook wrote:
> The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Acked-by: Gustavo A. R. Silva <gustavoars@kernel.org>
Thanks
--
Gustavo
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2020-07-09 18:11 [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred Kees Cook
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2020-07-09 23:03 ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
@ 2020-07-10 6:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-10 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-13 15:37 ` Jonathan Corbet
5 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman @ 2020-07-10 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook; +Cc: Jonathan Corbet, security, linux-doc, linux-kernel
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Thanks for this, that will hopefully keep us from having to say the same
thing over and over :)
Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
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2020-07-09 18:11 [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred Kees Cook
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2020-07-10 6:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
@ 2020-07-10 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-13 15:37 ` Jonathan Corbet
5 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2020-07-10 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook
Cc: Jonathan Corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman, security, linux-doc,
linux-kernel
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst | 9 ++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> index dcd6c93c7aac..c32eb786201c 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst
> @@ -21,11 +21,18 @@ understand and fix the security vulnerability.
>
> As it is with any bug, the more information provided the easier it
> will be to diagnose and fix. Please review the procedure outlined in
> -admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst if you are unclear about what
> +:doc:`reporting-bugs` if you are unclear about what
I can do 'gf' on Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst, I can do
didly squat with crap like :doc:'reporting-bugs'.
NAK
> information is helpful. Any exploit code is very helpful and will not
> be released without consent from the reporter unless it has already been
> made public.
>
> +Please send plain text emails without attachments where possible.
> +It is much harder to have a context-quoted discussion about a complex
> +issue if all the details are hidden away in attachments. Think of it like a
> +:doc:`regular patch submission <../process/submitting-patches>`
More unusable references.
> +(even if you don't have a patch yet): describe the problem and impact, list
> +reproduction steps, and follow it with a proposed fix, all in plain text.
> +
You forgot to mention that opening complex file formats is a security
risk all of its own.
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2020-07-09 18:11 [PATCH] Documentation/security-bugs: Explain why plain text is preferred Kees Cook
` (4 preceding siblings ...)
2020-07-10 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2020-07-13 15:37 ` Jonathan Corbet
5 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Corbet @ 2020-07-13 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook; +Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman, security, linux-doc, linux-kernel
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:11:30 -0700
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> The security contact list gets regular reports contained in archive
> attachments. This tends to add some back-and-forth delay in dealing with
> security reports since we have to ask for plain text, etc.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/security-bugs.rst | 9 ++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
Applied, thanks.
jon
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