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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Minor RST rant
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 14:51:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200724145148.58836d66@oasis.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200724174130.GC23808@casper.infradead.org>

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:41:30 +0100
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:

> Great example.  Some people definitely go too far with rst markup, and
> we generally try to discourage it.  And I'm pretty sure we take patches

I'd send patches but I suck at markup ;-) [1]

> to remove excessive markup where it's gone too far [1].
> 
> You can see how this renders in html at
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/filesystems/path-lookup.html or
> run 'make htmldocs' to build it locally.  Personally, I don't think
> the markup style it uses works very well in the html either.
> 
> I'd like to see this paragraph written as:
> 
> > It is tempting to describe the second kind as starting with a
> > component, but that isn't always accurate: a pathname can lack both
> > slashes and components, it can be empty, in other words.  This is
> > generally forbidden in POSIX, but some of the "*at()" system calls
> > in Linux permit it when the ``AT_EMPTY_PATH`` flag is given.  For
> > example, if you have an open file descriptor on an executable file you
> > can execute it by calling execveat() passing the file descriptor, an
> > empty path, and the ``AT_EMPTY_PATH`` flag.  
> 
> I think we're all pretty comfortable seeing function names adorned with
> a closing pair of parens.  The ``...`` to adorn constants feels OK to me,
> but maybe not to you?  If that feels excessive, can you suggest something
> that would distinguish between POSIX and AT_EMPTY_PATH?

Honestly, it's the context that distinguishes the two for me. I don't
need any markup. But yeah, the double backtick still seems awkward.
Funny thing is, markup like this:

  <b>AT_EMPTY_PATH</b>

doesn't bother me as much. Not sure why though :-/

My frustration with this stood out quite a bit because I went from one
file (with the same name) in .txt format, and went through that fast and
quickly where everything made a lot of sense, and then jumping to this
file, and feeling like I came to a stand-still in my understanding of
the material.

> 
> [1] Too far being a subjective measure, of course.  My preferences
> are on display in core-api/xarray.rst

[1] I maintain trace/ftrace.rst, but the markup in that was written by
others, and I gave a lot of pushback when I found that the markup made
it hard to read with "less".

-- Steve


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-24 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-24 17:22 Minor RST rant Steven Rostedt
2020-07-24 17:33 ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-07-24 18:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-24 23:46     ` NeilBrown
2020-07-29 12:44       ` peterz
2020-08-05 14:49         ` Vegard Nossum
2020-08-05 15:12           ` peterz
2020-08-06  6:48             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-06  8:36               ` Vegard Nossum
2020-07-28 12:52   ` peterz
2020-07-28 15:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-29  9:36       ` peterz
2020-07-24 17:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-24 18:14   ` David Sterba
2020-07-24 18:51   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2020-07-24 23:58     ` NeilBrown

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