From: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
To: prarit@redhat.com
Cc: bhelgaas@google.com, corbet@lwn.net, leon@kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
mstowe@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci-driver: Add driver load messages
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 07:54:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210126125446.1118325-1-prarit@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210126063935.GC1053290@unreal>
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:41:38PM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> > There are two situations where driver load messages are helpful.
> >
> > 1) Some drivers silently load on devices and debugging driver or system
> > failures in these cases is difficult. While some drivers (networking
> > for example) may not completely initialize when the PCI driver probe() function
> > has returned, it is still useful to have some idea of driver completion.
>
> Sorry, probably it is me, but I don't understand this use case.
> Are you adding global to whole kernel command line boot argument to debug
> what and when?
>
> During boot:
> If device success, you will see it in /sys/bus/pci/[drivers|devices]/*.
> If device fails, you should get an error from that device (fix the
> device to return an error), or something immediately won't work and
> you won't see it in sysfs.
>
What if there is a panic during boot? There's no way to get to sysfs.
That's the case where this is helpful.
> During run:
> We have many other solutions to get debug prints during run, for example
> tracing, which is possible to toggle dynamically.
>
> Right now, my laptop will print 34 prints on boot and endless amount during
> day-to-day usage.
>
> ➜ kernel git:(rdma-next) ✗ lspci |wc -l
> 34
>
> >
> > 2) Storage and Network device vendors have relatively short lives for
> > some of their hardware. Some devices may continue to function but are
> > problematic due to out-of-date firmware or other issues. Maintaining
> > a database of the hardware is out-of-the-question in the kernel as it would
> > require constant updating. Outputting a message in the log would allow
> > different OSes to determine if the problem hardware was truly supported or not.
>
> And rely on some dmesg output as a true source of supported/not supported and
> making this ABI which needs knob in command line. ?
Yes. The console log being saved would work as a true source of load
messages to be interpreted by an OS tool. But I see your point about the
knob below...
>
> >
> > Add optional driver load messages from the PCI core that indicates which
> > driver was loaded, on which slot, and on which device.
>
> Why don't you add simple pr_debug(..) without any knob? You will be able
> to enable/disable it through dynamic prints facility.
Good point. I'll wait for more feedback and submit a v2 with pr_debug.
P.
>
> Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-26 12:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-25 19:41 [PATCH] pci-driver: Add driver load messages Prarit Bhargava
2021-01-26 6:39 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-26 12:54 ` Prarit Bhargava [this message]
2021-01-26 13:14 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-26 13:42 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-01-26 13:53 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-26 14:05 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-01-26 15:12 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29 18:38 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-02-18 18:36 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-02-18 19:06 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-04 14:42 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-03-04 15:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-05 18:20 ` Prarit Bhargava
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2021-01-25 19:21 Prarit Bhargava
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