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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 19:16:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220411191645.91078752f29b82aea7ee508c@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220407031525.2368067-15-yuzhao@google.com>

On Wed,  6 Apr 2022 21:15:26 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:

> Add a design doc.
> 
>
> ...
>
> +Design overview
> +===============
> +Objectives
> +----------
> +The design objectives are:
> +
> +* Good representation of access recency
> +* Try to profit from spatial locality
> +* Fast paths to make obvious choices
> +* Simple self-correcting heuristics
> +
> +The representation of access recency is at the core of all LRU
> +implementations. In the multi-gen LRU, each generation represents a
> +group of pages with similar access recency. Generations establish a
> +common frame of reference and therefore help make better choices,
> +e.g., between different memcgs on a computer or different computers in
> +a data center (for job scheduling).

Does MGLRU have any special treatment for used-once pages?

> +Exploiting spatial locality improves efficiency when gathering the
> +accessed bit. A rmap walk targets a single page and does not try to
> +profit from discovering a young PTE. A page table walk can sweep all
> +the young PTEs in an address space, but the address space can be too
> +large to make a profit. The key is to optimize both methods and use
> +them in combination.
> +
> +Fast paths reduce code complexity and runtime overhead. Unmapped pages
> +do not require TLB flushes; clean pages do not require writeback.
> +These facts are only helpful when other conditions, e.g., access
> +recency, are similar. With generations as a common frame of reference,
> +additional factors stand out. But obvious choices might not be good
> +choices; thus self-correction is required.
> +
> +The benefits of simple self-correcting heuristics are self-evident.
> +Again, with generations as a common frame of reference, this becomes
> +attainable. Specifically, pages in the same generation can be
> +categorized based on additional factors, and a feedback loop can
> +statistically compare the refault percentages across those categories
> +and infer which of them are better choices.
> +
> +Assumptions
> +-----------
> +The protection of hot pages and the selection of cold pages are based
> +on page access channels and patterns. There are two access channels:
> +
> +* Accesses through page tables
> +* Accesses through file descriptors
> +
> +The protection of the former channel is by design stronger because:
> +
> +1. The uncertainty in determining the access patterns of the former
> +   channel is higher due to the approximation of the accessed bit.
> +2. The cost of evicting the former channel is higher due to the TLB
> +   flushes required and the likelihood of encountering the dirty bit.
> +3. The penalty of underprotecting the former channel is higher because
> +   applications usually do not prepare themselves for major page
> +   faults like they do for blocked I/O. E.g., GUI applications
> +   commonly use dedicated I/O threads to avoid blocking the rendering
> +   threads.
> +
> +There are also two access patterns:
> +
> +* Accesses exhibiting temporal locality
> +* Accesses not exhibiting temporal locality
> +
> +For the reasons listed above, the former channel is assumed to follow
> +the former pattern unless ``VM_SEQ_READ`` or ``VM_RAND_READ`` is
> +present, and the latter channel is assumed to follow the latter
> +pattern unless outlying refaults have been observed.

What about MADV_SEQUENTIAL?    Or did we propogate that into the fd?

> +Workflow overview
> +=================
> +Evictable pages are divided into multiple generations for each
> +``lruvec``. The youngest generation number is stored in
> +``lrugen->max_seq`` for both anon and file types as they are aged on
> +an equal footing. The oldest generation numbers are stored in
> +``lrugen->min_seq[]`` separately for anon and file types as clean file
> +pages can be evicted regardless of swap constraints. These three
> +variables are monotonically increasing.
> +
>
> ...
>
> +Summary
> +-------
> +The multi-gen LRU can be disassembled into the following parts:
> +
> +* Generations
> +* Page table walks
> +* Rmap walks
> +* Bloom filters
> +* The PID controller
> +
> +The aging and the eviction is a producer-consumer model; specifically,
> +the latter drives the former by the sliding window over generations.
> +Within the aging, rmap walks drive page table walks by inserting hot
> +densely populated page tables to the Bloom filters. Within the
> +eviction, the PID controller uses refaults as the feedback to select
> +types to evict and tiers to protect.

It's cool to see a PID controller in there.

How do we know that it converges well, that it doesn't exhibit instability, etc?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-12  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-07  3:15 [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  6:48   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  6:50   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  7:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-20  0:39       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-20 20:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-26 22:39     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 23:42       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-27  1:18         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  1:34           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-04-14  6:03   ` Barry Song
2022-04-14 20:36     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14 21:39       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14 22:14         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 10:15         ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 20:17           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 10:26       ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 20:18         ` Yu Zhao
     [not found]   ` <71af92d2-0777-c318-67fb-8f7d52c800bb@huawei.com>
2022-04-14 20:53     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  2:23       ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  5:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  6:31           ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  6:44             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  9:27               ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-18  9:58   ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  0:53     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19  4:25       ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  4:36         ` Barry Song
2022-04-19 22:25           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19 22:20         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  4:32   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-04-27  4:38     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  5:31       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-04-27  6:00         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  7:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-15  5:30       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  1:14     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  1:56       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  6:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 19:15           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 20:11             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 21:32               ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 21:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 22:57                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 23:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 23:24                       ` [page-reclaim] " Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:31                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-04-15 23:37                           ` Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:49                       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16 16:32                 ` Justin Forbes
2022-04-19 22:32                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-29 14:10   ` zhong jiang
2022-04-30  8:34     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 20:57     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 22:22       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-27  1:11         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-16  0:03     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  4:20       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26  6:59         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 21:30           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 22:15             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 12:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:51     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-16  2:22     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 11:39   ` Huang Shijie
2022-04-07 12:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:52     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-08  4:48       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2022-04-26  7:42     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:24 ` [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  8:31   ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-07  9:08     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  9:41     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 12:13       ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-08  2:08         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14  5:06 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-20  0:50   ` Yu Zhao

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