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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Andy Ren <andy.ren@getcruise.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, richardbgobert@gmail.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com,
	edumazet@google.com, petrm@nvidia.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] netconsole: Enable live renaming for network interfaces used by netconsole
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 20:40:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221101204006.75b46660@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2G+SYXyZAB/r3X0@lunn.ch>

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 01:48:09 +0100 Andrew Lunn wrote:
> Changing the interface name while running is probably not an
> issue. There are a few drivers which report the name to the firmware,
> presumably for logging, and phoning home, but it should not otherwise
> affect the hardware.

Agreed. BTW I wonder if we really want to introduce a netconsole
specific uAPI for this or go ahead with something more general.
A sysctl for global "allow UP rename"?

We added the live renaming for failover a while back and there were 
no reports of user space breaking as far as I know. So perhaps nobody
actually cares and we should allow renaming all interfaces while UP?
For backwards compat we can add a sysctl as mentioned or a rtnetlink 
"I know what I'm doing" flag? 

Maybe print an info message into the logs for a few releases to aid
debug?

IOW either there is a reason we don't allow rename while up, and
netconsole being bound to an interface is immaterial. Or there is 
no reason and we should allow all.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-02  3:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-02  0:24 [PATCH net-next v2] netconsole: Enable live renaming for network interfaces used by netconsole Andy Ren
2022-11-02  0:48 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-02  3:40   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-11-02 17:14     ` Roman Gushchin
2022-11-02 19:54       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-03  0:08         ` Roman Gushchin
2022-11-03 17:52         ` Ido Schimmel
2022-11-03 22:38           ` David Ahern

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