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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
Cc: Gregory Price <gourry.memverge@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: Implement Syscall User Dispatch Suspension
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:30:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230126183019.GD4069@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANaxB-woave9F479O75P9PC+nFO3DVmbeFA1rXf2c=bhRmWoiQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/26, Andrei Vagin wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:07 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > IIUC, PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH is needed to run the injected
> > code, and this also needs to change the state of the traced process. If
> > the tracer (CRIU) dies while the tracee runs this code, I guess the tracee
> > will have other problems?
>
> Our injected code can reheal itself if something goes wrong. The hack
> here is that we inject
> the code with a signal frame and it calls rt_segreturn to resume the process.

What will happen if CRIU dies and clears ->ptrace right before
syscall_user_dispatch() checks PT_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH ?

How the tracee will react to SIGSYS with unexpected .si_syscall ?

> I don't expect that
> the syscall user dispatch
> is used by many applications,

Agreed, so the case when CRIU will need to do the additional
PTRACE_SET_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH_CONFIG twice to disable and then re-enable
syscall_user_dispatch is unlikely.

> so I don't strongly insist on
> PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH.

I too won't argue too much. but so far I do not feel there is enough
justification for this feature ...

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25  2:51 [PATCH v6 0/2] Gregory Price
2023-01-25  2:51 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: Implement Syscall User Dispatch Suspension Gregory Price
2023-01-26  0:30   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26  1:30     ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26  4:43     ` Gregory Price
     [not found]     ` <CANaxB-xn0wW5xA_CT7bA5=jig+td__EDKPBWSpZdfgMgVOezCg@mail.gmail.com>
2023-01-26  5:26       ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 15:10         ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 18:09         ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 15:07       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 17:45         ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 17:52           ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 18:30             ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 18:30           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2023-01-26 18:46             ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 18:53             ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 19:01               ` Gregory Price
2023-01-25  2:51 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: add a getter/setter for sud configuration Gregory Price
2023-01-25  7:14   ` kernel test robot

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