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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Chen-Yu Tsai <wenst@chromium.org>
Cc: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>,
	U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	Nicolas Schier <nicolas@fjasle.eu>, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Terrell <terrelln@fb.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/2] arm64: boot: Support Flat Image Tree
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:38:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231207143814.GD15521@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231207142723.GA3187877@google.com>

On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:27:23PM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 03, 2023 at 05:34:01PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hi Simon,
> > 
> > Thank you for the patch.
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:54:42PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Add a script which produces a Flat Image Tree (FIT), a single file
> > > containing the built kernel and associated devicetree files.
> > > Compression defaults to gzip which gives a good balance of size and
> > > performance.
> > > 
> > > The files compress from about 86MB to 24MB using this approach.
> > > 
> > > The FIT can be used by bootloaders which support it, such as U-Boot
> > > and Linuxboot. It permits automatic selection of the correct
> > > devicetree, matching the compatible string of the running board with
> > > the closest compatible string in the FIT. There is no need for
> > > filenames or other workarounds.
> > > 
> > > Add a 'make image.fit' build target for arm64, as well. Use
> > > FIT_COMPRESSION to select a different algorithm.
> > > 
> > > The FIT can be examined using 'dumpimage -l'.
> > > 
> > > This features requires pylibfdt (use 'pip install libfdt'). It also
> > > requires compression utilities for the algorithm being used. Supported
> > > compression options are the same as the Image.xxx files. For now there
> > > is no way to change the compression other than by editing the rule for
> > > $(obj)/image.fit
> > > 
> > > While FIT supports a ramdisk / initrd, no attempt is made to support
> > > this here, since it must be built separately from the Linux build.
> > 
> > FIT images are very useful, so I think this is a very welcome addition
> > to the kernel build system. It can get tricky though: given the
> > versatile nature of FIT images, there can't be any
> > one-size-fits-them-all solution to build them, and striking the right
> > balance between what makes sense for the kernel and the features that
> > users may request will probably lead to bikeshedding. As we all love
> > bikeshedding, I thought I would start selfishly, with a personal use
> > case :-) This isn't a yak-shaving request though, I don't see any reason
> > to delay merging this series.
> > 
> > Have you envisioned building FIT images with a subset of DTBs, or adding
> > DTBOs ? Both would be fairly trivial extensions to this script by
> > extending the supported command line arguments. It would perhaps be more
> > difficult to integrate in the kernel build system though. This leads me
> > to a second question: would you consider merging extensions to this
> > script if they are not used by the kernel build system, but meant for
> > users who manually invoke the script ? More generally, is the script
> 
> We'd also be interested in some customization, though in a different way.
> We imagine having a rule file that says X compatible string should map
> to A base DTB, plus B and C DTBO for the configuration section. The base
> DTB would carry all common elements of some device, while the DTBOs
> carry all the possible second source components, like different display
> panels or MIPI cameras for instance. This could drastically reduce the
> size of FIT images in ChromeOS by deduplicating all the common stuff.

Do you envision the "mapping" compatible string mapping to a config
section in the FIT image, that would bundle the base DTB and the DTBOs ?

> > meant to be used stand-alone as well, in which case its command line
> > arguments need to remain backward-compatible, or do you see it as being
> > internal to the kernel ?
> 
> [...]
> 
> ChenYu

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-02  3:54 [PATCH v9 0/2] arm64: Add a build target for Flat Image Tree Simon Glass
2023-12-02  3:54 ` [PATCH v9 2/2] arm64: boot: Support " Simon Glass
2023-12-03 15:34   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-12-04 17:59     ` Simon Glass
2023-12-07 14:27     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-12-07 14:38       ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2023-12-07 20:52         ` Simon Glass
2023-12-07 21:30           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-12-09 13:13         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-12-09 15:29           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-12-09 16:31             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-12-14  4:02               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-12-14  6:12                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-12-14  7:33                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-12-29  6:38                     ` Simon Glass
2024-01-02  3:19                       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-01-09 13:47                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-01-10  3:47                         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-01-02 15:53                     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2024-01-09 14:33                     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2023-12-14  7:57                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-12-14 12:48                   ` Tom Rini
2023-12-05 11:48   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2023-12-06  3:54     ` Simon Glass
2023-12-08 11:49   ` Nicolas Schier
2023-12-13 12:13   ` Will Deacon
2024-01-02 23:46     ` Simon Glass
2024-01-09 14:01       ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-01-09 14:33         ` Tom Rini
2024-01-17 13:14           ` Simon Glass
2024-01-25 16:03             ` Simon Glass
2024-01-30  9:16               ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-01-31 22:02                 ` Rob Herring
2024-02-01  2:08                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-02-01 21:03                     ` Rob Herring
2024-02-02  5:37                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-02-02 16:00                   ` Simon Glass
2024-02-02 16:00                 ` Simon Glass

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